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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



Author Topic: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread  (Read 326186 times)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1305 on: August 22, 2017, 08:08:51 AM »
I don't know really, but how can it be a separate hechsher if it's the same one?

Anyway, the benei Torah in ey (Israelis) have never eaten OU. This is primarily due to the fact that the orthodox Union is a modern orthodox hashgacha and organization. Combined with the fact that they have a whole bunch of mainstream solid other options for kashrus.
The "never" is not a very long one though. While it was administered by R Rubin everyone are it because of him. Since then they seem to have gone through some organizational issues. These can someone mean that even if they have great standards they may not be supervising and enforcing their adherence adequately. This would not be a contradiction to them having the same standards as here.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1306 on: August 22, 2017, 08:44:56 AM »
What you would think in your ignorance is irrelevant. It it's easy and common to use a pasteurizer for various items. Your thoughts that clam chowder would need different equipment than juice is without basis as is your assumption that a plant which dries coffee would (more relevant than could) also dry milk. It would be silly to do it due to the specialized system needed for milk.

Again, is there anyone knowledgeable who disagrees with these hechsherim about this or is it only your baseless feelings?
Please. Clam chowder is clam soup. Doesn't just need "pasturizing" like some fruit juice.
Powdered milk is closer to powdered coffee, then clam chowder to apple juice.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1307 on: August 22, 2017, 08:51:44 AM »
Please. Clam chowder is clam soup. Doesn't just need "pasturizing" like some fruit juice.
Powdered milk is closer to powdered coffee, then clam chowder to apple juice.

On what basis are you saying this? Was the chowder cooked there or was it only packaged?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1308 on: August 22, 2017, 11:00:53 AM »
On what basis are you saying this? Was the chowder cooked there or was it only packaged?
Dunno, but lumping chowder w apple juice, that just needs pasturizing is wrong.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1309 on: August 22, 2017, 12:10:28 PM »
Dunno, but lumping chowder w apple juice, that just needs pasturizing is wrong.
Okay I see. Good thing that instead of you running hechsherim they are run by people who actually make sure to know the facts.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1310 on: August 22, 2017, 01:20:48 PM »
Okay I see. Good thing that instead of you running hechsherim they are run by people who actually make sure to know the facts.
The whole discussion is based on the evidence that they appear to not know the fact that not only coffee is being made.
Your aurgument is basically that they for sure know. Because they are a professional corporate, internationally renowned kashruth organization.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1311 on: August 22, 2017, 02:40:31 PM »
The whole discussion is based on the evidence that they appear to not know the fact that not only coffee is being made.
Your aurgument is basically that they for sure know. Because they are a professional corporate, internationally renowned kashruth organization.

I have shown that your premise is simply incorrect. YOu  are making ignorant assumptions that it is made on the drying equipment with zero basis in fact. My argument had nothing to do with their reputation at all and I did not mention it even once. I did ask 3 times if there was anyone who has knowledge of facts who disagrees with the assessment of all of these organizations and you have ignored it all three times. I have written based upon first hand knowledge of some of the equipment and processes as well as personal discussions with people who know them much better than I do.

It is also ridiculous to assume that the OU has no clue that there is dairy in a coffee plant since Nestle most likely had a conversation with them about having the OU on these cans as well. That would somewhat inform the RC in charge of coffee that there is dairy there I would think.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1312 on: August 22, 2017, 02:58:18 PM »
Okay I see. Good thing that instead of you running hechsherim they are run by people who actually make sure to know the facts.
No, If CBC ran them nobody would be OTD  :P

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1313 on: August 22, 2017, 06:49:14 PM »
I don't know really, but how can it be a separate hechsher if it's the same one?

Anyway, the benei Torah in ey (Israelis) have never eaten OU. This is primarily due to the fact that the orthodox Union is a modern orthodox hashgacha and organization. Combined with the fact that they have a whole bunch of mainstream solid other options for kashrus.
I guess that would explain why this south African guy who came to visit israel is busy brain washing me that there are two different OU's and not the same reliable.
 And he even agrees he would not eat the ou as he relies on the one hechsher they have in south Africa, while here is israel he will eat only the fachnachta brands.

 I do see that nestle makes the cheerios and even says, cereal partners worldwide nestle and general mills.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1314 on: August 22, 2017, 06:57:55 PM »
I guess that would explain why this south African guy who came to visit israel is busy brain washing me that there are two different OU's and not the same reliable.
 And he even agrees he would not eat the ou as he relies on the one hechsher they have in south Africa, while here is israel he will eat only the fachnachta brands.

 I do see that nestle makes the cheerios and even says, cereal partners worldwide nestle and general mills.
South Africa has more then one hechsher.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1316 on: September 01, 2017, 06:41:10 PM »
Anyone?

I know Tartikov but never seen this symbol.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1317 on: September 02, 2017, 08:26:51 PM »
Anyone?

I know Tartikov but never seen this symbol.
This is the more Americanized version of Tartikov Bais Din- R' Shmeil Teitelbaum.
All the heimeshe hashgachos are creating more Americanized symbols. Volove Rav has VK.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1318 on: September 04, 2017, 03:20:17 PM »


Is this a reliable hechsher?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #1319 on: September 04, 2017, 06:01:00 PM »


Is this a reliable hechsher?
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