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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4860 on: July 27, 2023, 09:36:32 PM »
Definitely not using the same tray for pizza and hot dogs.
Sow he’s “telling you” that doesn’t happen? You need to ask him how he knows that.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4861 on: July 27, 2023, 09:39:28 PM »
As long as it's a kosher eid echad.
You assume you mean to say that as long as there is an eid echad, it’s kosher.

You need to know what the eid echad is “saying”.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4862 on: July 27, 2023, 09:52:15 PM »
Sow he’s “telling you” that doesn’t happen? You need to ask him how he knows that.
You don't need to interrogate him. If he tells you it's kosher, he's telling you they don't use the same tray for pizza and hot dogs because that's not kosher. How he goes about ensuring everything is kosher is his responsibility.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4863 on: July 27, 2023, 09:56:35 PM »
You don't need to interrogate him. If he tells you it's kosher, he's telling you they don't use the same tray for pizza and hot dogs because that's not kosher. How he goes about ensuring everything is kosher is his responsibility.
No sir. You do need to find out how he knows that if you wand to claim there is an עד אחד testimony that it's kosher.
Of course it's your responsibility.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4864 on: July 27, 2023, 09:58:31 PM »
No sir. You do need to find out how he knows that if you wand to claim there is an עד אחד testimony that it's kosher.
Of course it's your responsibility.
If I come to your house and you serve me a meal, do I need to ask how you know everything you served me as kosher?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4865 on: July 27, 2023, 09:58:52 PM »
No sir. You do need to find out how he knows that if you wand to claim there is an עד אחד testimony that it's kosher.
Of course it's your responsibility.
Source?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4866 on: July 27, 2023, 10:00:26 PM »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4867 on: July 27, 2023, 10:03:21 PM »
If I come to your house and you serve me a meal, do I need to ask how you know everything you served me as kosher?
If you have absolutely no idea who I am and what my standards are, and for all you know I’m serving you triangle kosher which you consider treif, and you do not ask and it’s nisbarer it was indeed triangle kosher, we’re you grossly negligent?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4868 on: July 27, 2023, 10:06:58 PM »
If you have absolutely no idea who I am and what my standards are, and for all you know I’m serving you triangle kosher which you consider treif, and you do not ask and it’s nisbarer it was indeed triangle kosher, we’re you grossly negligent?
No. Why does my assumptions about your standards change anything? If I have reason to believe you would serve Triangle K, it may be different.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4869 on: July 27, 2023, 10:10:33 PM »
No. Why does my assumptions about your standards change anything? If I have reason to believe you would serve Triangle K, it may be different.
So in our camp scenario, due to the well known rampant disregard for basic Kashrus precautions that go on in camps without a proper system, why don’t you have reason to assume this camp is part of that?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4870 on: July 27, 2023, 10:12:47 PM »
So in our camp scenario, due to the well known rampant disregard for basic Kashrus precautions that go on in camps without a proper system, why don’t you have reason to assume this camp is part of that?
There are many many camps out there, a few people reporting what they've seen doesn't turn it into "rampant disregard for basic Kashrus precautions".
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4871 on: July 27, 2023, 10:14:14 PM »
There are many many camps out there, a few people reporting what they've seen doesn't turn it into "rampant disregard for basic Kashrus precautions".
How many people in how many camps need to report it to reach that level?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4872 on: July 27, 2023, 10:15:02 PM »
Source otherwise?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4873 on: July 27, 2023, 10:16:11 PM »
If you have absolutely no idea who I am and what my standards are, and for all you know I’m serving you triangle kosher which you consider treif, and you do not ask and it’s nisbarer it was indeed triangle kosher, we’re you grossly negligent?
That is why he wrote
As long as it's a kosher eid echad.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4874 on: July 27, 2023, 10:16:50 PM »
יבמות פ"ח. ורש"י שם
Not seeing anything of the sort. Please specify.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4875 on: July 27, 2023, 10:17:31 PM »
That is why he wrote
Why wouldn’t that guy be a kosher eid echad?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4876 on: July 27, 2023, 10:18:22 PM »
There are many many camps out there, a few people reporting what they've seen doesn't turn it into "rampant disregard for basic Kashrus precautions".

If there is no proper system set up in a commercial kitchen then the sincere intent for all to be kosher is unlikely to actually happen.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4877 on: July 27, 2023, 10:20:19 PM »
Not seeing anything of the sort. Please specify.
No mention of drisha vchakira. Same goes according to Tosfos that we learn from vsafra la. There is no need to ask how she knows.

You are making a limitation on eid echad ne'eman that you need to question what he says. Where did you get that from?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4878 on: July 27, 2023, 10:23:33 PM »
No mention of drisha vchakira. Same goes according to Tosfos that we learn from vsafra la. There is no need to ask how she knows.
Why would you need דרישה וחקירה? It’s talking about when they’re giving first hand uncomplicated information, I shechted this meat, I was menaker, etc.

That is NOT the same thing as saying “it’s kosher” which can mean blessed by a rabbi, or I shechted the cow, and anything in between.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #4879 on: July 27, 2023, 10:23:39 PM »
The owner is feeding the children, he said he's providing kosher food.

Yet he has no system in place to actually provide it.
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