Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[aygart]

Concession stands care about consistent taste? I don’t know about pure lard or tallow, but it seems that there are Kashrus concerns with oil in general.

https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/6282

Ata theme park?
Of course there are and I wouldn't eat without a hechsher of course, but if you are going to start with what can be put together to rely on lhatir, there are svaros to start with. I didn't take it through to the end to see if it stands because it is irrelevant to me.

[avromie7]

Concession stands care about consistent taste? I don’t know about pure lard or tallow, but it seems that there are Kashrus concerns with oil in general.

https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/6282

Very likely can rely on bitul because it's nosen taam l'fgam

While regular oils or the most popular, bacon grease is somewhat popular for popcorn and has a high smoke point. Some mix ghee into the oil for a buttery taste. It’s basically a  melted type of water buffalo or cow butter mostly sourced in Asia.

Bacon grease would be an issue but highly unlikely to be used at a theme park. Ghee I guess would be subject to the no. CY butter heater.

[imayid2]

Rabbi Auerbachs article this week was mostly about popcorn in theme parks

[aygart]

Very likely can rely on fitful because it's nosen taam l'fgamBacon grease would be an issue but highly unlikely to be used at a theme park. Ghee I guess would be subject to the no. CY butter heater.

Is it really certain that it is pogem of bacon grease is actually used?

[avromie7]

Is it really certain that it is pogem of bacon grease is actually used?

No, bacon grease in popcorn would likely be an issue, but I highly doubt they ever use it there. It's something that would be used in a boutique popcorn shop (like popinsanity).

[aygart]

No, bacon grease in popcorn would likely be an issue, but I highly doubt they ever use it there. It's something that would be used in a boutique popcorn shop (like popinsanity).

If bacon grease isn't pogem then is it clear that lard or tallow are?

[avromie7]

If bacon grease isn't pogem then is it clear that lard or tallow are?

I'm not sure of anything, just trying to explain what Rabbi Abadi may say.

[aishel]

Googling this symbol, looks like this is out of Phoenix, AZ. It is not on the CRC list though. Anyone have any insights on this one?

[avromie7]

Googling this symbol, looks like this is out of Phoenix, AZ. It is not on the CRC list though. Anyone have any insights on this one?

It's approved by Kosherquest

[aishel]

It's approved by Kosherquest

Thank you! I've never used that website before. I always relied on CRC.

[avromie7]

Thank you! I've never used that website before. I always relied on CRC.

It's run by Rabbi Eidlitz. He's a widely accepted rav in California.

[TheAsh]

It's run by Rabbi Eidlitz. He's a widely accepted rav in California.

He approves some seriously problematic hechsherim in EY.

[avromie7]

He approves some seriously problematic hechsherim in EY.

That's a very bold statement.

[TheAsh]

That's a very bold statement?

He allows Chug Chasam Sofer Petach Tikva, which received a severe rebuke from the rabbanut for substandard practices.

[sds1493]

Rabbi Auerbachs article this week was mostly about popcorn in theme parks.

I fail to see the issue. The popcorn is no worse than the nuts in Krakow, and significantly better since the machine is used exclusively for popcorn. There is a strong financial disincentive to use anything other than vegetable oil which is always kosher (e.g. in the UK or RSA) or at least almost always kosher (the NK element would be gelatin, which would again be batel). On the off chance that lard or the like was ever uaed, it would be lifgam.
Should a hashgocho give a hechsher? No. But could a consumer eat it? Should I look askance at someone who does?

[Darth1]

I fail to see the issue. The popcorn is no worse than the nuts in Krakow, and significantly better since the machine is used exclusively for popcorn. There is a strong financial disincentive to use anything other than vegetable oil which is always kosher (e.g. in the UK or RSA) or at least almost always kosher (the NK element would be gelatin, which would again be batel). On the off chance that lard or the like was ever uaed, it would be lifgam.
Should a hashgocho give a hechsher? No. But could a consumer eat it? Should I look askance at someone who does?

Oil can be an issue. Canola, soybean, and corn oils have to be processed and are sometimes processed in the same factory that processes animal fats.

[imayid2]

I fail to see the issue. The popcorn is no worse than the nuts in Krakow, and significantly better since the machine is used exclusively for popcorn. There is a strong financial disincentive to use anything other than vegetable oil which is always kosher (e.g. in the UK or RSA) or at least almost always kosher (the NK element would be gelatin, which would again be batel). On the off chance that lard or the like was ever uaed, it would be lifgam.
Should a hashgocho give a hechsher? No. But could a consumer eat it? Should I look askance at someone who does?

I do not know enough about the industry to determine the chances of the oil being treif. (Even if it was used once there can be a potentially be a problem of בשל לי at times.)

[aygart]

I fail to see the issue. The popcorn is no worse than the nuts in Krakow, and significantly better since the machine is used exclusively for popcorn. There is a strong financial disincentive to use anything other than vegetable oil which is always kosher (e.g. in the UK or RSA) or at least almost always kosher (the NK element would be gelatin, which would again be batel). On the off chance that lard or the like was ever uaed, it would be lifgam.
Should a hashgocho give a hechsher? No. But could a consumer eat it? Should I look askance at someone who does?

While regular oils or the most popular, bacon grease is somewhat popular for popcorn and has a high smoke point. Some mix ghee into the oil for a buttery taste. It’s basically a  melted type of water buffalo or cow butter mostly sourced in Asia.

If bacon grease isn't pogem then is it clear that lard or tallow are?

Where did you get it from that it is pogem?

[avromie7]

Oil can be an issue. Canola, soybean, and corn oils have to be processed and are sometimes processed in the same factory that processes animal fats.

If the lard, tallow, or fish oil is nosen taam l'fgam on the popcorn, it would be batel. Is there anything processed at these factories that wouldn't be nosen taam l'fgam when used for popcorn? I don't think they're processing bacon grease

[imayid2]

If the lard, tallow, or fish oil is nosen taam l'fgam on the popcorn, it would be batel. Is there anything processed at these factories that wouldn't be nosen taam l'fgam when used for popcorn? I don't think they're processing bacon grease

If the oil was processed in way that it would be נאסר then it would be חנ"ן and assur the popcorn.