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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)

You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



Author Topic: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread  (Read 818166 times)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5280 on: September 12, 2023, 09:11:03 PM »
Iím not familiar enough with the industry to know how much of a concern for treif oil there is.
Iím told that oils are sometimes refined in facilities also used for treif. Apparently itís not common in the US but does occur more often in other countries. So while a specific bottle of canola/vegetable/olive oil without a hechsher is unlikely to be treif, there is a realistic possibility that an unsupervised machine  had thoroughly treifa oil used at some point (got a bargain on some overstock oil made in Europe etc).

Assuming we would need to be choshesh for this (why wouldnít we, unless rov tells us not to? Not sure how this works) there would be a real issue with buying popcorn from concession stands unless you can verify exclusively kosher use until the last 24 hours (or Linas Layla) of disuse.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5281 on: September 12, 2023, 09:24:07 PM »
Iím told that oils are sometimes refined in facilities also used for treif. Apparently itís not common in the US but does occur more often in other countries. So while a specific bottle of canola/vegetable/olive oil without a hechsher is unlikely to be treif, there is a realistic possibility that an unsupervised machine  had thoroughly treifa oil used at some point (got a bargain on some overstock oil made in Europe etc).

Assuming we would need to be choshesh for this (why wouldnít we, unless rov tells us not to? Not sure how this works) there would be a real issue with buying popcorn from concession stands unless you can verify exclusively kosher use until the last 24 hours (or Linas Layla) of disuse.

I recall hearing from the Magrover that palm oil comes from Indonesia in tanker ships that may be used for animal fat too. He went into the details of when there is chashash and when not which I don't remember.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5282 on: September 12, 2023, 09:42:14 PM »

Anyone know anything about this hechsher?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5283 on: September 12, 2023, 09:55:16 PM »

Anyone know anything about this hechsher?
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5284 on: September 12, 2023, 10:03:29 PM »
I recall hearing from the Magrover that palm oil comes from Indonesia in tanker ships that may be used for animal fat too. He went into the details of when there is chashash and when not which I don't remember.

I am sure @imayid2 is familiar with the tumult about Palm Oil.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5285 on: September 18, 2023, 06:28:19 PM »
Ami this week with Rabbi Fishbane on Starbucks coffee.
If you ever bought there, I'd encourage you to read.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5286 on: September 18, 2023, 08:23:19 PM »
I didn't read the whole article but as someone who drinks at Starbucks often it really bothers me when I see people drinking the drinks with grape juice in them. I have no issue if you're going to drink something without a hechsher, but make sure its kosher first.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5287 on: September 18, 2023, 08:35:02 PM »
it really bothers me when I see people drinking the drinks with grape juice in them.
How do they react when you tell them that it's not kosher?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5288 on: September 18, 2023, 10:28:09 PM »
To me the scariest part of all this is the Refresher thing. According to the article there are many people drinking them and they are 100% treif.

IMHO part of the problem comes from relying on products and establishments that don't have a hashgocha because "what could be wrong with the oil in the popcorn" "what could be wrong with a drink in starbucks?" "I heard it's really kosher but doesn't have a good hashocha because....." etc etc....

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5289 on: September 18, 2023, 10:39:20 PM »
Is the iced passion tea kosher?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5290 on: September 18, 2023, 10:52:06 PM »
Holy canoli, that opening story :-X :-X :-X
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5291 on: September 18, 2023, 10:56:25 PM »
Holy canoli, that opening story :-X :-X :-X
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5292 on: September 18, 2023, 11:00:25 PM »
To me the scariest part of all this is the Refresher thing. According to the article there are many people drinking them and they are 100% treif.

IMHO part of the problem comes from relying on products and establishments that don't have a hashgocha because "what could be wrong with the oil in the popcorn" "what could be wrong with a drink in starbucks?" "I heard it's really kosher but doesn't have a good hashocha because....." etc etc....
The problem is people not verifying that what they eat is kosher either because it has a hechsher or because someone confirmed that it's kosher.

I would go into starbucks and get a coffee without hesitation, but I wouldn't get a flavored coffee at a DD without a hechsher unless I can verify the syrup even though the other location 2 miles away with a hechsher likely has the same syrup.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5293 on: September 18, 2023, 11:08:58 PM »
I'm not very fond of the stance they take, and the fact that many rabbanim allow what they are machmir on makes people less trusting and less open to listening to them. If someone told me AKO says my drink is no good, I would likely have a similar response to the guy in the story. Not due to ignorance but because the psak I got was that it's kosher l'chatchilah.

Refreshers are a serious problem, you don't even have bittul b'shesh, it's mostly grape juice.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5294 on: September 18, 2023, 11:23:02 PM »
Ya I'm not sure which part was more hair raising, the guys response or the wifes

She got rid of it before he comes up with his next spin, she knows him better than anyone else.


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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5295 on: September 18, 2023, 11:30:53 PM »
I'm not very fond of the stance they take, and the fact that many rabbanim allow what they are machmir on makes people less trusting and less open to listening to them. If someone told me AKO says my drink is no good, I would likely have a similar response to the guy in the story. Not due to ignorance but because the psak I got was that it's kosher l'chatchilah.

Refreshers are a serious problem, you don't even have bittul b'shesh, it's mostly grape juice.

I'm sorry, there's no scenario where "mind your own business" is an appropriate response. Even if the guy just got off the phone with his rav who told him the drink is 100% muttar.
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5296 on: September 18, 2023, 11:54:43 PM »
I'm sorry, there's no scenario where "mind your own business" is an appropriate response. Even if the guy just got off the phone with his rav who told him the drink is 100% muttar.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5297 on: September 19, 2023, 02:53:25 PM »
Refreshers are a serious problem, you don't even have bittul b'shesh, it's mostly grape juice.
https://kashrut.org/?p=12336
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All Starbucks drinks are Kosher.
All packaged grape juice in the United States and any other developed nations are kosher. They are all mevushal.

https://learn.oheltorah.com/t/welchs-grape-juice/3680

ETA They don't let everything
https://learn.oheltorah.com/t/starbucks-refreshers-and-other-mixes/19136
« Last Edit: September 19, 2023, 03:02:40 PM by imayid2 »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5299 on: September 19, 2023, 03:13:23 PM »
Mevushal from birth
Rabbi Abadi allows it because he verified that the employees don't come in contact with it before it's pasteurized. I can't explain his sons reasoning
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