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Links to kosher symbol lists. Each list is obviously only as reliable as its source

cRc: http://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

KosherQuest: https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/

Approved alcoholic drinks from the Rabbanut.  http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/wp-content/uploads/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D.pdf

These are NOT Orthodox: https://sites.google.com/site/nonorthodoxkosher/home (even though some may look legit)


Informative post regarding Kashrus Agencies
Every hashgacha has +&-.


You can also submit any kashrus questions at
https://www.askcrc.org/ask
https://oukosher.org/ask-kosher-question/
https://www.star-k.org/ask-rabbi choose General Consumer Kashrus Questions in the Subject/Topic Dropdown list
https://www.ok.org/contact/ choose Kosher in the Attention Dropdown list



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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5960 on: March 11, 2024, 02:06:53 PM »
If there is any “minhag” pertaining to home based business, it is that people bought without a hechsher (doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be changed).

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5961 on: March 11, 2024, 02:17:31 PM »
If we are going to start claiming that we are all bound by the minhag of the makom we all originated from…

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5962 on: March 11, 2024, 07:39:13 PM »
If there is any “minhag” pertaining to home based business, it is that people bought without a hechsher (doesn’t mean that shouldn’t be changed).
Some very interesting history regarding establishments without hecsheirim/mashgichim in early America @17:11: (As for the halacha, he is missing some important points)


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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5963 on: March 11, 2024, 07:44:50 PM »
shitos that are very clearly held to be true by a significant number of rabbanim and poskim
Who are you referring to?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5964 on: March 11, 2024, 08:30:51 PM »
Just bought a pack of Ricola Berry Medley's (website shows its kosher with a teudat kashrut) only to find out that the CRC doesn't hold by it? Someone want to explain this? Is it kosher?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5965 on: March 11, 2024, 09:03:29 PM »
Just bought a pack of Ricola Berry Medley's (website shows its kosher with a teudat kashrut) only to find out that the CRC doesn't hold by it? Someone want to explain this? Is it kosher?
The CRC only recommends certain flavors
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5966 on: March 11, 2024, 09:37:54 PM »
Right, is that to say that the mashgiach who gave their teudat kashrut on nearly all flavors is not a reliable mashgiach?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5967 on: March 11, 2024, 09:38:45 PM »
Right, is that to say that the mashgiach who gave their teudat kashrut on nearly all flavors is not a reliable mashgiach?
What makes you think there's a mashgiach?
Certificate ≠ Mashgiach
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5969 on: March 11, 2024, 09:57:47 PM »
The CRC only recommends certain flavors
What about packages that have a hechsher on them?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5970 on: March 11, 2024, 10:25:01 PM »
What about packages that have a hechsher on them?
They're recommended by that hechsher. I don't think that hechsher is on the CRC list, hence the CRC only recommends certain flavors
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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5971 on: March 11, 2024, 10:36:58 PM »
Just bought a pack of Ricola Berry Medley's (website shows its kosher with a teudat kashrut) only to find out that the CRC doesn't hold by it? Someone want to explain this? Is it kosher?
If it has any grape juices, it's for sure a problem...

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5972 on: March 12, 2024, 01:44:23 AM »
Ingredients show no grape juice :)

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5973 on: March 12, 2024, 03:24:51 AM »
but we have to keep in mind - eilu veilu divrei elokim chaim.
This is just wrong

I've personally heard a number of poskim point to the V4A as (part of) the reason we are mechuyav to buy only with a hechsher.
True, I didn't put a spit through them and roast them on a slow fire until they revealed exactly which lomdus they were using to say that. Whether it was the original takana, or a hanhaga that KY took on itself, or minhag avoseinu, or makam shenahagu, or any other one of a number of mehalchim.
The fact is that there are poskim who see the takanos of the V4A as a contributing factor in the halachic process.
You don't have to like it. You don't have to accept it. You do have to have respect for them.

I don't know who you are in real life. You may have a respected rabbinic position, or you may be a very learned Baal Habos. I don't really care, bec on the forum you are just an anonymous member of klal yisroel, and need to act with respect towards rabbanim and poskim.

(BTW If you have a problem with Rabbi Blier's positions or choice of wording, his email address is not a secret - why don't you email him and ask him? That way we all can learn)
« Last Edit: March 12, 2024, 03:28:14 AM by yfr bachur »

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5974 on: March 12, 2024, 06:02:22 AM »
I've personally heard a number of poskim point to the V4A as (part of) the reason we are mechuyav to buy only with a hechsher.
True, I didn't put a spit through them and roast them on a slow fire until they revealed exactly which lomdus they were using to say that. Whether it was the original takana, or a hanhaga that KY took on itself, or minhag avoseinu, or makam shenahagu, or any other one of a number of mehalchim.
The fact is that there are poskim who see the takanos of the V4A as a contributing factor in the halachic process.
You don't have to like it. You don't have to accept it. You do have to have respect for them.

I don't know who you are in real life. You may have a respected rabbinic position, or you may be a very learned Baal Habos. I don't really care, bec on the forum you are just an anonymous member of klal yisroel, and need to act with respect towards rabbanim and poskim.

(BTW If you have a problem with Rabbi Blier's positions or choice of wording, his email address is not a secret - why don't you email him and ask him? That way we all can learn)
I never heard this Rabbi Blier and quite frankly don’t see a lack of respect in pointing out that he’s incorrect without contacting him first. The fact that an anonymous guy unfortunately conflated that with something else he heard from other anonymous rabbis none withstanding.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5975 on: March 12, 2024, 06:10:37 AM »
And being lectured by this anonymous fellow about my “name calling” as if I went on a vitriolic cursing spree is comical.

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5976 on: March 12, 2024, 09:04:37 AM »
And being lectured by this anonymous fellow about my “name calling” as if I went on a vitriolic cursing spree is comical.
+1000

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5977 on: March 12, 2024, 09:17:33 AM »
lets be honest
eating from yungermans wife who sells cake is more trustworthy than the best hechsher in the world on a bakery owned by irreligious/goy with a bunch if treif eating workers coming in and out
either eat neither or only eat at home but dont feel frum by eating hechsger and not homemade from ehrlich guy

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5978 on: March 12, 2024, 09:22:44 AM »
lets be honest
eating from yungermans wife who sells cake is more trustworthy than the best hechsher in the world on a bakery owned by irreligious/goy with a bunch if treif eating workers coming in and out
either eat neither or only eat at home but dont feel frum by eating hechsger and not homemade from ehrlich guy
Are you speaking in terms of Halacha (ne’emanus, negius, etc.), or is this just you the way you feel?

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Re: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread
« Reply #5979 on: March 12, 2024, 10:04:42 AM »
lets be honest
eating from yungermans wife who sells cake is more trustworthy than the best hechsher in the world on a bakery owned by irreligious/goy with a bunch if treif eating workers coming in and out
either eat neither or only eat at home but dont feel frum by eating hechsger and not homemade from ehrlich guy
does this include random ads in Mishpacha, Ami, Bina etc that say all ingredients Badatz ?