Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[imayid2]

The gamara there is about being makriv all at once. The Rosh chulin 100a uses this to learn to taaruvos but we only go with that Rosh when there is hefsed.

My recollection about that CD is that it it's differentiating between the movement allowing bitul or a true parish but I may be getting confused since that is along the lines of R Chaim.

It’s 10 kohanim and they are being makriv each separately. Not quite sure it’s the same. The Rosh is zoning in on the fact that it doesn’t revert to being kavua.

I don’t think think the Rosh applies at all when bittul isn’t possible because of a דבר חשוב. His shita is based on נתנפך להיתר which doesn’t apply here. That is what the CD says too, that you can’t eat them all because there is a דבר חשוב which isn’t battul. I’d like to know if the sources you quoted say explicitly otherwise.

(I may be totally mistaken, checked it quickly on this it what it seemed to me. If I’m wrong LMK)

[aygart]

The Rosh is zoning in on the fact that it doesn’t revert to being kavua.

I don't think this is correct

[EliJelly]

Go ahead and post the remaining piece of Rav Asher Weiss, looks like he's also saying that the earlier psak on each cow remains.

[imayid2]

I don't think this is correct

That is what he says “we don’t say it was חזרו לקביעותן” or something like that

[aygart]

Go ahead and post the remaining piece of Rav Asher Weiss, looks like he's also saying that the earlier psak on each cow remains.

They all agree it is mutar and discuss the why

[imayid2]

Go ahead and post the remaining piece of Rav Asher Weiss, looks like he's also saying that the earlier psak on each cow remains.

It’s in the link I posted

[imayid2]

They all agree it is mutar and discuss the why

Or maybe it’s mutar because of the why

[aygart]

That is what he says “we don’t say it was חזרו לקביעותן” or something like that

Because it's what would be happening in zvachim and is your case that I commented on.

[imayid2]

Because it's what would be happening in zvachim and is your case that I commented on.

No, my case has the same person eating them at once. That is not the same. I think.

[yitzgar]

Could be. This was where I remembered it from. Do you have an exact maare makom?

I think 4, 4 but I don't have one with me at the moment

[shulem92]

There is no difference between one cup of thousands of cows milk mixed together and drinking thousands of gallons.

sure there is. Basic siman 110 the din of Toilin

[aygart]

No, my case has the same person eating them at once. That is not the same. I think.

If after the animals in the market were sold a lung was discovered to be a treifa they may be eaten because of כל דפריש.

If somehow all that meat ends up in one location, and I now know that there is certainly meat here which is treif, would we not recalibrate even though every individual piece already received it’s “psak”?

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[EliJelly]

It’s in the link I posted

While others write endlessly on the matter, he brushes off the entire significance of statistics from an halachik standpoint.   

https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=50299&st=&pgnum=145

[imayid2]

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Recalibrate meaning do we say the issur was already נתהפך להיתר and now it’s permitted to even eat at once (at least according to the Rosh).

Honestly not sure about this at all. Maybes it does. IDK. Would appreciate an explicit M”M on this.

[imayid2]

While others write endlessly on the matter, he brushes off the entire significance of statistics from an halachik standpoint.   

https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=50299&st=&pgnum=145

I have no idea what he’s talking about. His rayos are from cases which aren’t statistical impossibilities.

[imayid2]

sure there is. Basic siman 110 the din of Toilin

Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean. Tolin is completely inapplicable, the issur is mixed in every particle.

[EliJelly]

Recalibrate meaning do we say the issur was already נתהפך להיתר and now it’s permitted to even eat at once (at least according to the Rosh).

Does the Rosh even come into play here? We're aren't dealing with bitul here as we don't have shishim for milk which is lach b'lach. The discussion is about the psak of rov regarding the cows for which we certainly don't say the Rosh's נתהפך להיתר.

[imayid2]

Does the Rosh even come into play here? We're aren't dealing with bitul here as we don't have shishim for milk which is a lach b'lach. The discussion is about the psak of rov regarding the cows for which we certainly don't say נתהפך להיתר.

R Kallus applied it to the milk immediately after it came out before it mixed. I assumed there is no נתהפך thus my question.

[EliJelly]

R Kallus applied it to the milk immediately after it came out before it mixed. I assumed there is no נתהפך thus my question.

He said that about the hanhaga of Rov which shouldn't change in this situation. Did he mention the Rosh's נתהפך להיתר??

[imayid2]

He said that about the hanhaga of Rov which shouldn't change in this situation. Did he mention the Rosh's נתהפך להיתר??

Without it it makes no sense. You know the issur is here, how can you eat it?
It’s like this case:

If after the animals in the market were sold a lung was discovered to be a treifa they may be eaten because of כל דפריש.

If somehow all that meat ends up in one location, and I now know that there is certainly meat here which is treif