Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[Dan]

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[Galitzyaner]

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BS

[moish]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/dansdeals/permalink/10152155889536041/?comment_id=10152155937696041&offset=0&total_comments=9

its absolutely ridiculous, i wonder which yeshiva he went to

[rufieg3]

everyones got an opinion lol

[joeberg]

I have a wedding and possibly Shabbos Sheva Brochus in Belz Yerushalayim. What is the story with their Hechsher/Shchita?

[efflpetzel]

I have a wedding and possibly Shabbos Sheva Brochus in Belz Yerushalayim. What is the story with their Hechsher/Shchita?

Its top notch, even Ben & Jerry's trust them

[ChAiM'l]

Is whiskey kosher or not?

[DBK]

+100

Heard from multiple sources that it's one step short (if that much) of treif.

Its not just mehadrin vs rabbanut issue?

[Moishebatchy]

Its not just mehadrin vs rabbanut issue?

1) No.*

2) Even if yes, this is something you foreigners have got to learn: regular Rabbanut is not "just another hechsher, except not as amazing"; it is almost completely worthless for anything more complicated than a cup of coffee (unless, of course, you personally research the establishment and/or ascertain from other sources that the mashgiach can be trusted, etc.) But just walking into a restaurant and seeing a certificate with some aleph-bais on it doesn't automagically make the place kosher. For meat especially, most people do not rely on regular Rabbanut, as they rely on certain kulos in the shechitah process that would make your head spin.

*Side note: there was a story going around about some guys who asked the owner of Dex what the hashgacha was. His response was "if you care enough to actually ask that question, then this place is probably not for you."

[DBK]

1) No.*

2) Even if yes, this is something you foreigners have got to learn: regular Rabbanut is not "just another hechsher, except not as amazing"; it is almost completely worthless for anything more complicated than a cup of coffee (unless, of course, you personally research the establishment and/or ascertain from other sources that the mashgiach can be trusted, etc.) But just walking into a restaurant and seeing a certificate with some aleph-bais on it doesn't automagically make the place kosher. For meat especially, most people do not rely on regular Rabbanut, as they rely on certain kulos in the shechitah process that would make your head spin.

*Side note: there was a story going around about some guys who asked the owner of Dex what the hashgacha was. His response was "if you care enough to actually ask that question, then this place is probably not for you."

Very interesting. As I remember learning the halacha during my years in yeshiva in Israel it was that essentially Rabbanut and Mehadrin were all good because in Israel there is no concept of Glatt Kosher as there is in America. And that there was never an issue with dairy but with meat its a question whether it was salted and frozen before being shipped to Israel or if it was salted after the fact upon arrival. But feel free to CMIIW.
Thanks for the info I will definitely take into consideration in the future.

[moish]

Very interesting. As I remember learning the halacha during my years in yeshiva in Israel it was that essentially Rabbanut and Mehadrin were all good because in Israel there is no concept of Glatt Kosher as there is in America. And that there was never an issue with dairy but with meat its a question whether it was salted and frozen before being shipped to Israel or if it was salted after the fact upon arrival. But feel free to CMIIW.
Thanks for the info I will definitely take into consideration in the future.

who taught you these 'halachos?'

this is the most preposterous thing ive heard in a while

[Emkay]

Very interesting. As I remember learning the halacha during my years in yeshiva in Israel it was that essentially Rabbanut and Mehadrin were all good because in Israel there is no concept of Glatt Kosher as there is in America. And that there was never an issue with dairy but with meat its a question whether it was salted and frozen before being shipped to Israel or if it was salted after the fact upon arrival. But feel free to CMIIW.
Thanks for the info I will definitely take into consideration in the future.

wth!!!

[Dr Moose]

Very interesting. As I remember learning the halacha during my years in yeshiva in Israel it was that essentially Rabbanut and Mehadrin were all good because in Israel there is no concept of Glatt Kosher as there is in America. And that there was never an issue with dairy but with meat its a question whether it was salted and frozen before being shipped to Israel or if it was salted after the fact upon arrival. But feel free to CMIIW.
Thanks for the info I will definitely take into consideration in the future.

you are wrong

[itsyehuda]

Is whiskey kosher or not?

This is very poorly reasoned, and also fallacious. Certainly the bit where he claims that it is forbidden according to all opinions in the world.

There are many Rabbonim that specifically permit whisky from sherry casks. Including one Rabbi Moshe Feinstein.

[DBK]

you are wrong

which part?

[Emkay]

which part?

pretty much all

[DBK]

pretty much all

[moish]

which part?

let's just say i think you heard a purim joke

[DBK]

let's just say i think you heard a purim joke

Ok lets go with that

[Chaikel]

Ok lets go with that

Which yeshiva?
Virtually any dayan in the rabbanute will tell you that a frum person should not be eating rabbanute. In fact I'm in the process of setting up a meeting with a dayan for a friend who is trying to figure out what kashrus he should follow in this country.

Rabbanute was established in order that traditional, and non-religious jews should have easy access to food that isn't outright treif. Many chareidi Rabbis were vehemently against this as they thought it would cause confusion among frum people who were actually trying to keep kosher. Turns out they were right