kosher hotels near NY for shabbos

[miles horder]

Anyone know of any good kosher hotels that you can go to for shabbos?

[Dan]

Stop by take-out store, bring crock pot, set up shop anywhere you want.

[miles horder]

Stop by take-out store, bring crock pot, set up shop anywhere you want.

i wanna go somewhere i can relax and not need to cook a thing, just show up and enjoy!

[Dan]

i wanna go somewhere i can relax and not need to cook a thing, just show up and enjoy!

Do you cook for the take-out store?

[miles horder]

Do you cook for the take-out store?

I hear ya, but then i have to worry about leaving the room on shabbos and then preparing the food etc...
kosher hotels sometimes have an eruv and a key for the room so i don't feel trapped in my room the whole shabbos 

[Dan]

I hear ya, but then i have to worry about leaving the room on shabbos and then preparing the food etc...
kosher hotels sometimes have an eruv and a key for the room so i don't feel trapped in my room the whole shabbos 

Since when do you need a eruv chatzeiros in a hotel?
Tape the door, lock your valuable in a safe, not a big deal.
Throw the food in and on top of a crock pot IMHO and have an easy getaway.

[Jerseysteve]

If there is another jew there u need an eiruv and schirus mokom contact your Rav

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[AJK]

If there is another jew there u need an eiruv and schirus mokom contact your Rav

Really?? Anyone have further details on this?

[Dan]

If there is another jew there u need an eiruv and schirus mokom contact your Rav

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Due to the fact that:
A. The hotel owns the objects in the room.
B. The hotel always has the right to make you move rooms (it's even happened to me before)
most Rabbis will not necessitate an eruv chatzeiros in a hotel.

Some discussion here: http://www.aishdas.org/baistefila/eruvp4.htm

YLORMV.

[Jerseysteve]

Yes this is the halacha as both of them are guests u need an eiruv however if everyone shares a common kitchen would not need an eiruv these halochos or complex and u should contact a Rav. Rabbi Ribiat in his sefer 39 Malochos expounds upon this.

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[Dan]

Yes this is the halacha as both of them are guests u need an eiruv

Oversimplification of the issues at play.

[Jerseysteve]

As this is not a halacha forum I did not go into all the complex halachos involved. I would suggest u ask your Rav for clarification. I will ask Rabbi Chaikin next time I see him - you might be surprised.

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[Dan]

I would suggest u ask your Rav for clarification.

Absolutely, but be sure that the relevant issues are discussed. 
That the hotel owns the items in the room, that the hotel can enter your room at any time without your permission, that the hotel can forcefully move you from the room to another room or even evict you from the hotel.

Feel free to report back.

[miles horder]

OK back on subject..... anyone know of a good hotel that's near NY that has the whole kosher package for shabbos?

[Bp]

I always do schirus mokom, i give a dollar to the front desk or anyone of housekeeping, and i say i want to rent the whole place for religious reasons, i always get 

[AsherO]

I always do schirus mokom, i give a dollar to the front desk or anyone of housekeeping, and i say i want to rent the whole place for religious reasons, i always get 

Are you kidding? Even if they accept your $1, they aren't authorized to rent you the place.

[Dan]

May as well tell the bellhop when you hand him a tip that it's for renting the place...he's got the same authority as the front desk peon.

[joeb1]

I always do schirus mokom, i give a dollar to the front desk or anyone of housekeeping, and i say i want to rent the whole place for religious reasons, i always get 

The guy probably wonders what youre on

[Bp]

The guy probably wonders what youre on

yup, whats the price we have to pay fro being frum.

Are you kidding? Even if they accept your $1, they aren't authorized to rent you the place.

its enough for schirus mokom.

[Galitzyaner]

its enough for schirus mokom.

Righhht!  Same way that you can tell a eino yehudi to open the lights for you on Shabbos...