Reuven can I have a brocha? The Talmud says that one that was put down and embarrassed for no reason has a special power when giving out brochot.
I hope its a brocha that I should be zocha with my family to someday soon move to Eretz Yosroel and be hold to hold Israeli citizenship.
1. "The devil can cite scripture for his purpose" - Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice
Would you mind enlightining me to the source in the talmud where it says, when an anonymous person on the internet comments and disparages the Gedolim, and some other anonymous guy calls it for what it is, that 1. he is embarrased and 2. his brochot are mekubal?
and if you were to claim that he is not anonymous, who is embarrasing whom? saying such utter stupidity on a public forum, is it not embarrasing yourself?. the Rambam (maimonides) writes when one who speaks ill of talmidei chachamim is put into nidui, in addition the Rambam writes Hamevazeh Talmidei Chachamin Ein Lo Chelek..... .
2. The foundaiton of zioninsim is based on apostosy, haters of G-D, FACT (any histroy book).
Have you never heard of the infamous children of tehran or the children of yemen (2000 years of interrupted tradition, fighting through persecutions for their jewishness only to come to their land of israel and have the zionists immoraly uproot and secularize them)!?!? ( rav machpud is actually a survivor, he tells a story where after the wicked zionists chopped his payot off, his mother lovingly carresing the last few strands and saying how beautiful they are, and saying that, thats what kept him strong).
Chaim weizman (whom without, is doubtful whether the sate of israel would of ever have come into being) said "we replace the concept of saving jews with the concept of ultimate salvation... he also said "I was asked: Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine? I replied, No. ... From the depths of the tragedy I want to save ... young people [for Palestine]. The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world ... Only the branch of the young shall survive, they have to accept it"
David Ben Gurion (dovid Green) said that while saving european jews is important. his prority was to work for the realization of the jewish national home. all this while 6 million jews were led to the slaughter. he also said "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative.
I ask you where were the zionists during the holocaust - Izaak Greenbaum - head of Jewish Agency Rescue Committee, anwers: "If I am asked, "Could you give from the UJA moneys to rescue Jews, 'I say, NO! and I say again NO!". another quote
"One Cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland".
In a poll in aprox. 2006 the settlers ranked as the most hated people ahead of the palesteinans!!! the suicide bombers!!!
I ask you, if you have nothing to gain by having israeli citezenship why would you want it, if you don't need it!? is it because it feels like the right thing, I ask you, have you ever contemplaed it at all? have you ever put honest unbiased thought to it? or was there first an agenda of which the torah outlook must fit into, and not vice versa? I look forward to an honest and open reply,.
