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I think there is a big misunderstanding what locked/unlocked means.

All phones that are made are always assigned to a carrier (yes even the ones that say "Factory GSM Unlocked") to prove that just look up the model of the phone and you will see what carrier it was assigned to.

In order for a phone to have service the company has to know that you want service on this phone.

In the past company's like Sprint and Verizon did not work with a sim card they worked with the id of the phone to recognize what kind of phone / what carrier it was assigned to. This is know as CDMA. Yet company's like att/t-mobile did that too but the service was applied by using a sim.

Once LTE came out for what ever reason all company switched to the "Sim technology". There is still one thing that did not change, each carrier has their assigned bands that they have from the FCC that they are allowed to use.

Being that there are standard bands that every one uses (for international or the like) these are included in every phone. So.... All verizon phones will work on att, BUT will only have the bands for slower internet since those are standard bands.

Now verizon's LTE band is NOT a standard nor is their CDMA a standard so an att or a t-mobile phone will NOT be able to accept a Verizon sim.

Now lets go to sprint phones,

All other company's when they had the phones made for them all they do is have it customized for its own use (Read: their own LTE bands). Sprint on the other hand not only did they have them customize it they put a lock in the software blocking all local USA bands (Verizon ATT and Tmobile).

They even go a step farther and they still do the old way of checking the device ID to see if its a sprint phone or not.

Hope this explains a few things feel free to ask any questions.

Att has an easy way to ask for an unlock https://att.com/deviceunlock

How to check a Sprint iPhone (only): You cannot check it with an american sim you must put in a foreign sim. You DO NOT have to backup and restore as sprint sends in the email! Connect to wifi before starting this procedure.

When you put the sim in one of 3 things will happen.
1. It will say no service in the top right corner = Unlocked
2. It will do a soft restart and ask you for your apple id password = Almost unlocked, after putting in the password its unlocked
3. It will do a soft restart and say "Sim not valid" = Phone is locked

If you got number 2. and you dont know the password just put in your old sim and all will return. When you find out the password repeat the steps.

Willmyphonework.net Can check if the phone will work
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #340 on: May 31, 2016, 11:33:39 PM »
Will an unlocked iPhone 5 work with Cricket in terms of talk, text and 4G LTE data?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #341 on: June 01, 2016, 09:35:13 AM »
Will an unlocked iPhone 5 work with Cricket in terms of talk, text and 4G LTE data?
Yes. What carrier was it locked to originally?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #342 on: June 01, 2016, 05:13:42 PM »
Yes. What carrier was it locked to originally?

1. Verizon, I believe. So, would it work well with Cricket?

2. What about with Boost Mobile?

3. I have an HTC Evo 4G LTE with Sprint which they say they can't unlock but they gave me the MSL code. Can I use it with Cricket?

4. How about with Boost Mobile?

Thank you so much!

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #343 on: June 01, 2016, 05:20:32 PM »
1. Verizon, I believe. So, would it work well with Cricket?

2. What about with Boost Mobile?

3. I have an HTC Evo 4G LTE with Sprint which they say they can't unlock but they gave me the MSL code. Can I use it with Cricket?

4. How about with Boost Mobile?

Thank you so much!
1. Will not work well with Cricket (no fast data)
2. You cannot use the boost phone on any other US carrier
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #344 on: June 01, 2016, 06:23:31 PM »
1. Will not work well with Cricket (no fast data)
2. You cannot use the boost phone on any other US carrier

2. The other way around. Can an unlocked Verizon iPhone 5 work well on Boost Mobile?

Can you please answer 3 and 4 too?

Thank you.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #345 on: June 01, 2016, 06:44:06 PM »
3 is no and 4 would probably need flashing which is complicated

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #346 on: June 01, 2016, 06:44:38 PM »
Verizon iphone 5 won't work on boost

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #347 on: June 01, 2016, 08:08:11 PM »
3 is no and 4 would probably need flashing which is complicated

How complicated?
Is it worth saving me the $80 for a new phone from Boost?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #348 on: June 01, 2016, 08:09:29 PM »
Verizon iphone 5 won't work on boost

Even though it's unlocked?

I don't understand why people say you can unlock phones and bring them from carrier to carrier, if it doesn't seem that way based on your replies to both the iPhone and the HTC Evo?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #349 on: June 01, 2016, 08:24:14 PM »
Different technology in place here. Evo Is sprint and doesn't even have a removable sim card. Cricket is GSM service. Verizon iphone will work but won't have lte. Not gonna get too technical here. Imho get the att gophone zte zmax 2 for 60 bux and have a good large android with good cricket service

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #350 on: June 01, 2016, 11:00:19 PM »
Different technology in place here. Evo Is sprint and doesn't even have a removable sim card. Cricket is GSM service. Verizon iphone will work but won't have lte. Not gonna get too technical here. Imho get the att gophone zte zmax 2 for 60 bux and have a good large android with good cricket service

Does it make sense that the Verizon iPhone 5 S is currently working fine with MetroPCS?

Also, where is the ZTE ZMAX 2 sold for $60? How does it compare to Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 (currently $100 from Cricket)?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #351 on: June 02, 2016, 06:57:17 AM »
Does it make sense that the Verizon iPhone 5 S is currently working fine with MetroPCS?

Also, where is the ZTE ZMAX 2 sold for $60? How does it compare to Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 (currently $100 from Cricket)?
Also on ebay for 60.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49976.msg1484052.msg#1484052

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #352 on: June 02, 2016, 08:57:45 AM »
Also on ebay for 60.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49976.msg1484052.msg#1484052

Thank you for replying.

1. Will that ZTE give LTE speeds with Cricket?
2. Why am I not finding the Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 on Ebay for $60? :(
3. Which is better, the above Alcatel or the ZTE?
4. Also, I prefer smaller smartphones. What can I get that is the size of a LG Optimus S that has good processor speed, decent internal storage, and will work with Cricket?

I'm in a rush because I want to finalize before my next Sprint billing date.

Thank you again for all your help.
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #353 on: June 02, 2016, 09:16:41 AM »
Even though it's unlocked?

I don't understand why people say you can unlock phones and bring them from carrier to carrier, if it doesn't seem that way based on your replies to both the iPhone and the HTC Evo?

I think there is a big misunderstanding what locked/unlocked means.

All phones that are made are always assigned to a carrier (yes even the ones that say "Factory GSM Unlocked") to prove that just look up the model of the phone and you will see what carrier it was assigned to.

In order for a phone to have service the company has to know that you want service on this phone.

In the past company's like Sprint and Verizon did not work with a sim card they worked with the id of the phone to recognize what kind of phone / what carrier it was assigned to. This is know as CDMA. Yet company's like att/t-mobile did that too but the service was applied by using a sim.

Once LTE came out for what ever reason all company switched to the "Sim technology". There is still one thing that did not change, each carrier has their assigned bands that they have from the FCC that they are allowed to use.

Being that there are standard bands that every one uses (for international or the like) these are included in every phone. So.... All verizon phones will work on att, BUT will only have the bands for slower internet since those are standard bands.

Now verizon's LTE band is NOT a standard nor is their CDMA a standard so an att phone will NOT be able to accept a Verizon sim.

Now lets go to sprint phones,

All other company's when they had the phones made for them all they do is have it customized for its own use (Read: their own LTE bands). Sprint on the other hand not only did they have them customize it they put a lock in the software blocking all local USA bands (Verizon ATT and Tmobile).

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #354 on: June 02, 2016, 09:23:34 AM »
Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Can someone (cozmohoot?) take a moment to answer my other questions?

Thank you.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #355 on: June 02, 2016, 01:52:22 PM »
1 answered elsewhere.
2 find me a lexus for 150 per month first..
3 zte is very large so alcatel sounds better for u
4, I don't have specific recommendations

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #356 on: June 02, 2016, 01:59:59 PM »
1 answered elsewhere.
2 find me a lexus for 150 per month first..
3 zte is very large so alcatel sounds better for u
4, I don't have specific recommendations

1. I guess you mean it will get LTE speeds with Cricket.
2. I thought you said it was on Ebay for $60. Maybe I misunderstood.
3. Even the Alcatel seems quite large to me. :)
4. OK.

Thanks for all you help.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #357 on: June 08, 2016, 10:10:08 AM »
how can i unlock a iphone 6 t-mobile for my upcoming trip to israel?

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« Reply #358 on: June 08, 2016, 10:15:21 AM »
how can i unlock a iphone 6 t-mobile for my upcoming trip to israel?

by calling them? who said its locked?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #359 on: June 08, 2016, 10:44:38 AM »
i pay for the phone in monthly installments, as long its not paid off a certain amount its locked...