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I think there is a big misunderstanding what locked/unlocked means.

All phones that are made are always assigned to a carrier (yes even the ones that say "Factory GSM Unlocked") to prove that just look up the model of the phone and you will see what carrier it was assigned to.

In order for a phone to have service the company has to know that you want service on this phone.

In the past company's like Sprint and Verizon did not work with a sim card they worked with the id of the phone to recognize what kind of phone / what carrier it was assigned to. This is know as CDMA. Yet company's like att/t-mobile did that too but the service was applied by using a sim.

Once LTE came out for what ever reason all company switched to the "Sim technology". There is still one thing that did not change, each carrier has their assigned bands that they have from the FCC that they are allowed to use.

Being that there are standard bands that every one uses (for international or the like) these are included in every phone. So.... All verizon phones will work on att, BUT will only have the bands for slower internet since those are standard bands.

Now verizon's LTE band is NOT a standard nor is their CDMA a standard so an att or a t-mobile phone will NOT be able to accept a Verizon sim.

Now lets go to sprint phones,

All other company's when they had the phones made for them all they do is have it customized for its own use (Read: their own LTE bands). Sprint on the other hand not only did they have them customize it they put a lock in the software blocking all local USA bands (Verizon ATT and Tmobile).

They even go a step farther and they still do the old way of checking the device ID to see if its a sprint phone or not.

Hope this explains a few things feel free to ask any questions.

Att has an easy way to ask for an unlock https://att.com/deviceunlock

How to check a Sprint iPhone (only): You cannot check it with an american sim you must put in a foreign sim. You DO NOT have to backup and restore as sprint sends in the email! Connect to wifi before starting this procedure.

When you put the sim in one of 3 things will happen.
1. It will say no service in the top right corner = Unlocked
2. It will do a soft restart and ask you for your apple id password = Almost unlocked, after putting in the password its unlocked
3. It will do a soft restart and say "Sim not valid" = Phone is locked

If you got number 2. and you dont know the password just put in your old sim and all will return. When you find out the password repeat the steps.

Willmyphonework.net Can check if the phone will work
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #380 on: June 19, 2016, 08:49:56 PM »
Try another

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #381 on: June 20, 2016, 12:15:23 AM »
Is there someone you'd refer?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #382 on: June 22, 2016, 11:57:16 AM »
conflicting research online.
have an unlocked at&t iphone 5s
Will a Verizon sim work in it?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #383 on: June 22, 2016, 12:30:40 PM »
conflicting research online.
have an unlocked at&t iphone 5s
Will a Verizon sim work in it?
TIA
yes but no fast data
Look at the wiki
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #384 on: June 22, 2016, 04:00:00 PM »
yes but no fast data
Look at the wiki
TX. so 3g data and reg calling, sms?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #385 on: June 22, 2016, 05:10:24 PM »
According t9 Willmyphonework.com the att 5s won't be good at all with vzw

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #386 on: June 22, 2016, 06:48:34 PM »
According t9 Willmyphonework.com the att 5s won't be good at all with vzw
Whoops you are correct i though he was asking the other way around
TX. so 3g data and reg calling, sms?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #387 on: June 23, 2016, 12:57:27 AM »
Whoops you are correct i though he was asking the other way aroundSee above
tried it. It came up Verizon for a second then went immediately to no service    In settings under network it shows as unavailable.....

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #388 on: June 25, 2016, 10:25:57 PM »
According t9 Willmyphonework.com the att 5s won't be good at all with vzw

Are you sure that's the right site? When I click your link it doesn't seem right.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #389 on: June 25, 2016, 10:39:52 PM »
Are you sure that's the right site? When I click your link it doesn't seem right.
But what he said is correct
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #390 on: June 25, 2016, 10:41:59 PM »
But what he said is correct

But I wanted to look up other phones.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #393 on: June 28, 2016, 05:31:46 PM »
Will a Verizon galaxy s7 edge work with tmobile?  Do I have to unlock it?  Is it even possible to unlock?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #394 on: June 28, 2016, 05:43:11 PM »
Will a Verizon galaxy s7 edge work with tmobile?  Do I have to unlock it?  Is it even possible to unlock?
No unlock necessary

Verizon LTE phones must come unlocked by law.
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #395 on: June 28, 2016, 05:52:04 PM »
No unlock necessary

Verizon LTE phones must come unlocked by law.
So it will work on tmobile like a regular tmobile phone.  Right?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #396 on: June 28, 2016, 06:28:42 PM »
So it will work on tmobile like a regular tmobile phone.  Right?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #397 on: June 29, 2016, 10:09:28 AM »
yes
-1 See wiki he will have slow data.

No unlock necessary

Verizon LTE phones must come unlocked by law.

By the way there is no law requiring them to have it factory unlocked. This was a decision Verizon made to MOST phones. I have seen in the past customers that did not pay off the phone yet, that the phone will be locked.
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« Reply #398 on: June 29, 2016, 10:21:27 AM »
Updated the wiki with a bit more info
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #399 on: June 29, 2016, 10:42:33 AM »
No unlock necessary

Verizon LTE phones must come unlocked by law.

Which law?

While this probably SHOULD be the law, as it is in Israel, especially in today's day and age of no subsidies, I am unaware of any current such law.

I don't see how this doesn't violate any anti-trust rules or something of the sort. On the contrary, IIRC it's even illegal to flash a phone that you own outright.
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