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I think there is a big misunderstanding what locked/unlocked means.

All phones that are made are always assigned to a carrier (yes even the ones that say "Factory GSM Unlocked") to prove that just look up the model of the phone and you will see what carrier it was assigned to.

In order for a phone to have service the company has to know that you want service on this phone.

In the past company's like Sprint and Verizon did not work with a sim card they worked with the id of the phone to recognize what kind of phone / what carrier it was assigned to. This is know as CDMA. Yet company's like att/t-mobile did that too but the service was applied by using a sim.

Once LTE came out for what ever reason all company switched to the "Sim technology". There is still one thing that did not change, each carrier has their assigned bands that they have from the FCC that they are allowed to use.

Being that there are standard bands that every one uses (for international or the like) these are included in every phone. So.... All verizon phones will work on att, BUT will only have the bands for slower internet since those are standard bands.

Now verizon's LTE band is NOT a standard nor is their CDMA a standard so an att or a t-mobile phone will NOT be able to accept a Verizon sim.

Now lets go to sprint phones,

All other company's when they had the phones made for them all they do is have it customized for its own use (Read: their own LTE bands). Sprint on the other hand not only did they have them customize it they put a lock in the software blocking all local USA bands (Verizon ATT and Tmobile).

They even go a step farther and they still do the old way of checking the device ID to see if its a sprint phone or not.

Hope this explains a few things feel free to ask any questions.

Att has an easy way to ask for an unlock https://att.com/deviceunlock

How to check a Sprint iPhone (only): You cannot check it with an american sim you must put in a foreign sim. You DO NOT have to backup and restore as sprint sends in the email! Connect to wifi before starting this procedure.

When you put the sim in one of 3 things will happen.
1. It will say no service in the top right corner = Unlocked
2. It will do a soft restart and ask you for your apple id password = Almost unlocked, after putting in the password its unlocked
3. It will do a soft restart and say "Sim not valid" = Phone is locked

If you got number 2. and you dont know the password just put in your old sim and all will return. When you find out the password repeat the steps.

Willmyphonework.net Can check if the phone will work
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #740 on: October 19, 2021, 08:25:14 AM »
I don't have telegram, does he have WA?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #741 on: October 19, 2021, 09:27:47 AM »
is the iphone 2020 se unlockable? anyone offer that service in bklyn?

You can do it online.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #742 on: October 19, 2021, 04:17:25 PM »
Somone on telegram claims to unlock the lg classic for $40
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #743 on: October 19, 2021, 10:21:52 PM »
You can do it online.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #744 on: December 07, 2021, 11:46:06 PM »
We purchased an unlocked Alcatel Smartflip 4052 from Ebay.
Yet, when we put in a SIM card from Hello Mobile (T-Mobile network) the phone shows the following message:
Device locked. Enter SIM unlocked code (10 tries left).
Hello Mobile insists the phone is really locked.
The Ebay seller insists the phone is unlocked and the issue is that Hello Mobile linked the SIM card to the phone it was activated in.
I'm inclined to agree with the Ebay seller that the phone is unlocked, since I can use other SIM cards in the phone.
Can anyone help us with this?
Thanks.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #745 on: December 08, 2021, 12:07:46 AM »
I know a few people with such a setup, I don't believe they had an issue
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #746 on: December 08, 2021, 03:55:35 PM »
I received the following in a PM but the user's inbox is full so I can't reply. You may want to delete old messages.

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Alcatel phone is obviously locked. Other sims worked in it probably bec they are under the same underlying network which Im assuming is ATT in your case.

My response -
Thanks.
The phone is branded AT&T.
The other SIM that works in it is a FreeUp SIM which uses AT&T network.
Yet, the FreeUp SIM won't work in a locked Cricket Alcatel which also runs on AT&T network, which makes me think that the phone is really unlocked and the issue is with the Hello Mobile SIM.
What do you think?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #747 on: December 08, 2021, 05:08:43 PM »
Find someone else with a hellomobile sim, me thinks it's the phone too.


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Re: cell phone unlocking
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #749 on: December 08, 2021, 08:21:50 PM »
I received the following in a PM but the user's inbox is full so I can't reply. You may want to delete old messages.
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #750 on: December 12, 2021, 01:54:36 PM »
IME. Some carriers link the sim to the imei and some don’t. Hello does. T-Mobile themselves do link as well. Meaning you can’t just take out a sim from phone a and put it into phone b it won’t work unless you update this info in there system. Liberty wireless works on T-Mobile network and they don’t link the sim to the imei so you can do this

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #751 on: December 12, 2021, 04:46:36 PM »
Anyone know how to unlock the LG classic? Willing to pay.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #752 on: December 12, 2021, 11:47:13 PM »
IME. Some carriers link the sim to the imei and some don’t. Hello does. T-Mobile themselves do link as well. Meaning you can’t just take out a sim from phone a and put it into phone b it won’t work unless you update this info in there system. Liberty wireless works on T-Mobile network and they don’t link the sim to the imei so you can do this
If true, how would I be able to move a Hello Mobile SIM card from phone to phone?
Thanks.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #753 on: December 13, 2021, 12:22:48 AM »
If true, how would I be able to move a Hello Mobile SIM card from phone to phone?
Thanks.
IME. Some carriers link the sim to the imei and some don’t. Hello does. T-Mobile themselves do link as well. Meaning you can’t just take out a sim from phone a and put it into phone b it won’t work unless you update this info in there system. Liberty wireless works on T-Mobile network and they don’t link the sim to the imei so you can do this

Hello doesn't care at all. I moved plenty of Sims without an issue. Your phone is obviously locked to ATT and you need to get the unlock code. If the seller doesn't believe you, then try any T-Mobile sim and you will see you will get the lock screen. (You can even test a not-active SIM)

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #754 on: December 13, 2021, 07:36:25 PM »
Hello doesn't care at all. I moved plenty of Sims without an issue. Your phone is obviously locked to ATT and you need to get the unlock code. If the seller doesn't believe you, then try any T-Mobile sim and you will see you will get the lock screen. (You can even test a not-active SIM)
I put a non-active T-Mobile SIM card into another unlocked phone and it showed "searching".
I put it into my (supposedly) unlocked phone and it showed "Device locked. Enter SIM unlocked code (10 tries left)."
Apparently, the phone is not really unlocked.
The seller won't respond.
Ebay rep tells me that although wrong of the seller to advertise the phone as unlocked, they can't do anything since it's just over 6 months from purchase.
(Until now I didn't realize the issue since I was using FreeUP which runs on AT&T network, but I specifically purchased an unlocked phone knowing I wanted to switch down the line.)
Any recourse?

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #755 on: December 13, 2021, 07:38:58 PM »
Any recourse?
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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #756 on: December 13, 2021, 08:10:22 PM »
I put a non-active T-Mobile SIM card into another unlocked phone and it showed "searching".
I put it into my (supposedly) unlocked phone and it showed "Device locked. Enter SIM unlocked code (10 tries left)."
Apparently, the phone is not really unlocked.
The seller won't respond.
Ebay rep tells me that although wrong of the seller to advertise the phone as unlocked, they can't do anything since it's just over 6 months from purchase.
(Until now I didn't realize the issue since I was using FreeUP which runs on AT&T network, but I specifically purchased an unlocked phone knowing I wanted to switch down the line.)
Any recourse?
PayPal Dispute? When buying phones on eBay always activate them ASAP.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #757 on: December 13, 2021, 11:05:38 PM »

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #758 on: December 13, 2021, 11:09:13 PM »
PayPal Dispute?
Paypal's website says only within 180 days.
I'm just past that.
When buying phones on eBay always activate them ASAP.
Yes, I know for the future.

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Re: cell phone unlocking
« Reply #759 on: December 13, 2021, 11:17:23 PM »
Paypal.
You used Paypal credit, not a different cc through paypal, correct?
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