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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2019, 12:38:46 PM »
FWIW - this is an article from over a year ago - https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-bans-juul-e-cigarette-a-grave-danger-to-public-health/

While I do find it curious that in the last few weeks we've seen a proliferation news stories about vaping/juuling being deadly. I just want to point out that:

a) We've known for a while that Juul has higher concentrations of some harmful and/or addictive items
b) As this article shows, the US was slower to address concerns than Israel and the UK which did so almost a year ago
c) Vaping is relatively new, and we're adding more things to it (CBD and/or THC seem pretty popular in the last few months), we still don't understand the long term effects. I would also speculate that some of those severely injured were either mixing up their own mixes (or being sold them) that overly concentrated some of the bad stuff.

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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2019, 12:59:48 PM »
FWIW - this is an article from over a year ago - https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-bans-juul-e-cigarette-a-grave-danger-to-public-health/

While I do find it curious that in the last few weeks we've seen a proliferation news stories about vaping/juuling being deadly. I just want to point out that:

a) We've known for a while that Juul has higher concentrations of some harmful and/or addictive items
b) As this article shows, the US was slower to address concerns than Israel and the UK which did so almost a year ago
c) Vaping is relatively new, and we're adding more things to it (CBD and/or THC seem pretty popular in the last few months), we still don't understand the long term effects. I would also speculate that some of those severely injured were either mixing up their own mixes (or being sold them) that overly concentrated some of the bad stuff.
I think it got attention as they discovered the connection between these and a lung disease in teens.
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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2019, 01:12:01 PM »
Vaping has been for the past few years an endorsement of lifestyle disconnected from reality. I.e. "I am a non-smoker, and just puff some water vapor. Nothing wrong with that".

As for the flavored vapes, I find many (if not all) environmentally noxious.
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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2019, 02:38:24 PM »
I think it got attention as they discovered the connection between these and a lung disease in teens.

In the US. But it was on both Israel and the UK's radar for a while because of some of the things they put into it. Like 3x the maximum nicotine allowed in cigarettes in Britain.

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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2019, 03:48:32 PM »
Once we get SCOTUS nominations right, every other positive development is just a bonus.

off topic but not sure why this doesn't get more press. Especially as a democratic fear tactic .

https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-mcconnel-court-judges-plot/

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Re: E-Cigs
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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2019, 08:38:21 PM »
Why can't you understand the opinion that SCOTUS outweighs almost everything?
The same way you can't understand that you and others use this BS reasoning to justify your support for a total scumbag!!!
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« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2019, 11:40:26 PM »
The same way you can't understand that you and others use this BS reasoning to justify your support for a total scumbag!!!
I totally get that this reasoning is being used as a reason to support a scumbag. I don't understand why it should fit the description you gave.
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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2019, 11:48:04 PM »
I totally get that this reasoning is being used as a reason to support a scumbag.
This statement shows you don't get it.
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Re: E-Cigs
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2019, 11:51:08 PM »
This statement shows you don't get it.
It just fits in with myh general opinion of politicians.
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