Where Are You Posting From Now?

[shmooz]

This is interesting because the Dan lounges teuda state explicitly heter mechira

[ExGingi]

Does this count as משיח לפי תומו?

Also does "כשרות מהדרין" include the two Hechsherim involved in the "Poland cheese fiasco"?

[JlmBoi]

Does this count as משיח לפי תומו?

Also does "כשרות מהדרין" include the two Hechsherim involved in the "Poland cheese fiasco"?

Even Mehadrin Yerushalayim which is quite accepted will use products from those hechshers and both CCS afaik.

[moko]

And this is why Dan can never do a DDMS TR on food in Israel

why only Israel?

[YitzyS]

why only Israel?

Because most DDFers won't give a hoot if Dan eats from the Pope's hashgacha in Rome. But if he eats from the Zionist Rabanut... 

[Dan]

why only Israel?

Which else are hechsherim so complicated, controversial, and politicized?

[zagguru]

I wish there was a master thread for everything related to @Dan 's israel trip. Make it difficult to keep up with everything because its in multiple threads

[moko]

Which else are hechsherim so complicated, controversial, and politicized?

depends what you call politicized. Boston? Many eat at restaurants that a major Kashrus agency spent significant amount of time at and couldn't recommend

[Dan]

depends what you call politicized. Boston? Many eat at restaurants that a major Kashrus agency spent significant amount of time at and couldn't recommend

Details?
Either way, that's a one-off versus an entire country of little to no consensus on what is equal to mainstream US hashgocha.

[aygart]

Does this count as משיח לפי תומו?

Why is that needed?

[Yef]

Also does "כשרות מהדרין" include the two Hechsherim involved in the "Poland cheese fiasco"?

Any way to get more info about this.

[ExGingi]

Does this count as משיח לפי תומו?

Also does "כשרות מהדרין" include the two Hechsherim involved in the "Poland cheese fiasco"?

Also notice that this is not signed by anyone! Who is vouching for this? It is separate and distinct from the Kashrus certificate which is signed and has no mention of such.

[ExGingi]

Even Mehadrin Yerushalayim which is quite accepted will use products from those hechshers and both CCS afaik.

Which just shows (as I have claimed many times) that the term "Mehadrin" is meaningless. Does Rubin accept them?

[ExGingi]

Which else are hechsherim so complicated, controversial, and politicized?

Because there's such a huge market, and so many gullible people that will just go for the "Mehadrin" label without thinking or questioning what it means.

Add to that Hechsherim that were started for pure political/power reasons (such as the both  Hechsherim involved in the Poland cheese fiasco), and you have a recipe for things going downhill.

Details?
Either way, that's a one-off versus an entire country of little to no consensus on what is equal to mainstream US hashgocha.

How do you define "mainstream US Hashgocho"? Would it be from organizations that exist and have a purpose other than just Kashrus? Such as the OU? cRc? (Or other reputable local vaadim such as S. Louis, Denver, Detroit, etc.) Or is it about size and experience (which add Kof-K and OK to the list).

And is the approach "everything in Israel is so politicized and controversial, so I'll just accept them all"? (Which is one of the problems with the Rabanut Mehuderet or Mehadrin, and some others, who will almost blindly accept anything that says badatz or Mehadrin).

[shmooz]

Also notice that this is not signed by anyone! Who is vouching for this? It is separate and distinct from the Kashrus certificate which is signed and has no mention of such.

The Hebrew one is signed and says basically the same thing

[ExGingi]

The Hebrew one is signed and says basically the same thing

I missed the small print on the signed one.

[shmooz]

Now that this thread is about the lounges, how do you get into the kdl as opposed to the Dan?

[moko]

Now that this thread is about the lounges, how do you get into the kdl as opposed to the Dan?

ElAl J.
It's ELALs lounge

[shmooz]

ElAl J.
It's ELALs lounge

Ty

with pressure to the airport (or whoever runs the lounge) maybe they could do the same at the Dan, or one of them, there are surely enough customers who care about it.

[moko]

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