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Did you catch the 4 mile hong kong deal and book and get ticketed??

YES
81 (28.5%)
NO
35 (12.3%)
CONFIRMED BUT NO TICKET
1 (0.4%)
MISSED THE DEAL
167 (58.8%)

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Author Topic: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong  (Read 294964 times)

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1420 on: August 09, 2012, 01:12:33 AM »
Whatever happened with this, is it a lost cause? Does the DOT have to issue some kind of statement?
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1421 on: August 09, 2012, 09:30:07 AM »

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We are unable at this time to estimate when our investigation will be completed. We can advise that when we are finished investigating the matter we will either pursue enforcement action or we will not. Even if we were to pursue enforcement action, we do not have the authority to order United to honor the tickets in question. If you would like us to apprise you when we have completed our investigation , please let us know.

 

 

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US Department of Transportation

 

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1422 on: August 09, 2012, 11:09:17 AM »
Mr xxxx

We are unable at this time to estimate when our investigation will be completed. We can advise that when we are finished investigating the matter we will either pursue enforcement action or we will not. Even if we were to pursue enforcement action, we do not have the authority to order United to honor the tickets in question. If you would like us to apprise you when we have completed our investigation , please let us know.

 

 

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1423 on: August 09, 2012, 11:22:44 AM »
Mr xxxx

We are unable at this time to estimate when our investigation will be completed. We can advise that when we are finished investigating the matter we will either pursue enforcement action or we will not. Even if we were to pursue enforcement action, we do not have the authority to order United to honor the tickets in question. If you would like us to apprise you when we have completed our investigation , please let us know.

Alexander A. Taday III
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1424 on: August 09, 2012, 12:44:34 PM »
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1425 on: August 09, 2012, 12:49:29 PM »
I am wondering, do you think this long wait for a decision is a good thing or a bad thing? I guess I am confused about what takes so long to investigate.  I cannot imagine they are still gathering information, so now they are just waiting to decide what they should do?

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1426 on: August 09, 2012, 02:10:04 PM »
United please follow El Al's example.
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1427 on: August 09, 2012, 02:11:06 PM »
United please follow El Al's example.
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1428 on: August 09, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »
Why do you think elal did it as a good service? They had to because of the law!

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1429 on: August 09, 2012, 05:44:02 PM »
United please follow El Al's example.
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Re: Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1430 on: August 09, 2012, 05:48:26 PM »
+1, kiddush hashem.
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1431 on: September 28, 2012, 10:31:49 AM »
In case anyone was wondering.....

I just emailed the DOT for an update on the status of their "investigation", and this is the response I got:

The investigation has not been completed.

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1432 on: September 28, 2012, 11:57:09 AM »
Interesting, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1433 on: September 28, 2012, 12:01:51 PM »
Interesting, but I'm not holding my breath.

How do they expect anyone to take them seriously? There's no way they're "investigating" anything at this point.

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1434 on: September 28, 2012, 12:17:29 PM »
my flight is supposed to leave right after succos, please reinstate my tickets already :) :)

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1435 on: September 28, 2012, 01:01:10 PM »
In case anyone was wondering.....

I just emailed the DOT for an update on the status of their "investigation", and this is the response I got:

The investigation has not been completed.
Yeah, I had gotten the same response a month ago, they told me they will inform me when they have concluded the "investigation"

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1436 on: October 12, 2012, 09:50:31 AM »
Just got the following email:

Mr. Springles:

 

We have completed our review of United’s conduct regarding its recent Frequent Flyer fare sale to Hong Kong from the United States on its website.  Our review found that the actual price of the advertised fare was never clearly stated during the booking process, thereby creating ambiguous circumstances in which it could be reasonably interpreted that the actual price of the fare was significantly more than the amount consumers paid at the time they attempted to purchase the fare, e.g., $40 plus 4 frequent flyer miles.  Therefore, we are not able to establish that consumers, in fact, paid the full amount of the offered fare at the time of purchase.  Accordingly, the evidence does not support a finding that United engaged in an unfair and deceptive practice in violation of the relevant statute.    Please note that, regardless of the outcome of our investigation, consumers are free to pursue claims (e.g., a breach of contract claim) against the airline in an appropriate civil court for monetary damages and other remedies particular to their situation.

 

 

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1437 on: October 12, 2012, 09:55:59 AM »
Just got the following email:

Mr. Springles:

 

We have completed our review of United’s conduct regarding its recent Frequent Flyer fare sale to Hong Kong from the United States on its website.  Our review found that the actual price of the advertised fare was never clearly stated during the booking process, thereby creating ambiguous circumstances in which it could be reasonably interpreted that the actual price of the fare was significantly more than the amount consumers paid at the time they attempted to purchase the fare, e.g., $40 plus 4 frequent flyer miles.  Therefore, we are not able to establish that consumers, in fact, paid the full amount of the offered fare at the time of purchase.  Accordingly, the evidence does not support a finding that United engaged in an unfair and deceptive practice in violation of the relevant statute.    Please note that, regardless of the outcome of our investigation, consumers are free to pursue claims (e.g., a breach of contract claim) against the airline in an appropriate civil court for monetary damages and other remedies particular to their situation.

 

 

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To me that sounds like they think United screwed up but don't want to take them on because they know United will be pissed off, and you probably don't want to piss off the largest airline in the US. I am shocked that they even mentioned lawsuits. So unlike a government agency to suggest that.

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Re: Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1438 on: October 12, 2012, 10:05:14 AM »
To me that sounds like they think United screwed up but don't want to take them on because they know United will be pissed off, and you probably don't want to piss off the largest airline in the US. I am shocked that they even mentioned lawsuits. So unlike a government agency to suggest that.

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Re: PRICING MISTAKE: 4 miles from Hong Kong
« Reply #1439 on: October 12, 2012, 10:10:08 AM »
-1 on everything you said

OUCH! I guess I am not ready to play with the big boys yet.....