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Tlv - Maldives
US Airway - 50/75/100
UA - 40/70/90
AA- 35/50/70

TLV - Thailand
AA - 45/60/90
UA - 75/100/160
US Airway - 50/75/100

TLV to SEZ (Seychelles)
UA - 70k
US - 70k
Avianca - 45k

From Australia to TLV
AA is 30k-45k
UA is 45k 60k

MIA to TLV on BA, and found availability on Air Berlin for 35k ow + $22.

TLV - South Pacific
AA - 60/90
UA - 80/120

TLV - MNL
UA - 75/100/
US - 50/75/100
AA - 45/60/90

TLV - India
AA - 35/50/70
UA - 40/70/100


Air Berlin doesn't charge YQ when you use BA miles, you can get some good values when touring Europe.

For example, TLV - TXL is 20k + $80 in coach. From there, you can access multiple cities throughout Europe for 9k + regular fees and taxes, but no YQs.

Or do an open jaw, and use a different One World carrier to return to TLV, although some YQs may be needed.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #240 on: June 10, 2013, 01:41:35 PM »
Why did you capitalize hooey?
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #241 on: June 10, 2013, 01:43:56 PM »
That is sick. I just booked business to italy on AB with avios (47,500) and AA miles (50K) because i wanted one way to be biz and the other to be coach (so now I will book home coach prob with United). Had I known about this, I would've done coach VA to LHR and then BA to Italy, and flown home in biz. Wasted a ton of points. Oh well... I'm a total noob at redemptions so this is a learning experience.
Or you could switch the BA route to coach. And use the Biz on the way home. BA to Italy via AB in coach was 24,500 avios. With the Amex transfer comes out to 16500 MR points and practically no taxes.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #242 on: June 28, 2013, 07:46:25 PM »
Or you could switch the BA route to coach. And use the Biz on the way home. BA to Italy via AB in coach was 24,500 avios. With the Amex transfer comes out to 16500 MR points and practically no taxes.

Which airport in Italy?

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #243 on: July 22, 2013, 02:12:54 PM »
Interesting post about AB miles.
http://travelisfree.com/2013/07/22/consider-transferring-spg-points-to-air-berlin/

Gotta think about how it may be of a benefit (if any) ex-TLV.

FYI:
TLV - VIE RT has $141 of YQ
TLV - TXL RT has $141
TLV - DUS RT has $141
TLV - MUN ditto
TLV - CGN ditto

Interesting data point.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #244 on: July 22, 2013, 03:06:23 PM »
Which airport in Italy?
Sorry, just saw this. JFK-TXL-VCE.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #245 on: July 22, 2013, 03:55:20 PM »
Did I read correctly? MUN/CGN - TLV (RT) has zero YQ??!
no, ditto means 'the same'
IE, $141 on every single route.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #246 on: July 22, 2013, 04:12:38 PM »
no, ditto means 'the same'
IE, $141 on every single route.
TY! :-[

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #247 on: July 22, 2013, 04:44:49 PM »
Interesting post about AB miles.
http://travelisfree.com/2013/07/22/consider-transferring-spg-points-to-air-berlin/

Gotta think about how it may be of a benefit (if any) ex-TLV.

FYI:
TLV - VIE RT has $141 of YQ
TLV - TXL RT has $141
TLV - DUS RT has $141
TLV - MUN ditto
TLV - CGN ditto

Interesting data point.
Was more interesting when this was alive:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/17174
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #248 on: July 22, 2013, 04:47:47 PM »
Was more interesting when this was alive:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/17174

I would personally prefer to use 60k avios with minimal tax then 40k SPG anyday

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #249 on: July 22, 2013, 04:50:04 PM »
I would personally prefer to use 60k avios with minimal tax then 40k SPG anyday
100%
If there was a better way to accumulate AB, this would be a better deal.
But from TLV-Europe for 25k AB, is only 20k SPG, and if somehow a few stops could be had, it could be s/t. Especially with the 50% companion reduction.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #250 on: August 07, 2013, 09:43:04 AM »
I assume this is known, but BA doesn't charge YQ on S7.
I thought S7 had a direct flight to DME, but I'm not seeing it.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #251 on: August 08, 2013, 01:18:20 AM »
Wow.
Just checked HKT - DPS using BA miles flying on Malaysian, and all the YQ were taken out!
Down from $122 to $22 (+ 14.5k OW)
Don't know if it's on all Malaysian or if it's s/t else.

(EDIT: YQ are still being applied from KUL-CDG, so unsure why not in this case.)
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #252 on: August 19, 2013, 04:24:59 AM »
Another option to keep in mind are the AA Explorer awards.
Suffice to say, they're quite complicated (see FT for details here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-aadvantage/1328727-new-oneworld-aa-explorer-awards-using-aa-miles-not-partner-awards.html), but they have sweet spots in them.

For example, flying economy for under 1.5k miles is 30k, but flying btw 1.5k-4k miles costs 35k! And if you're flying from TLV to Europe, biz class isn't anything special anyhow.

So for example, the following routing should only price out at 35k (and you're using 2+ OW carriers, HG, IB, and BA).
You can then fly back from LON on a discounted carrier, or take the train into CDG and return from there using miles.

Another sweet spot is to fly in biz class btw 4k - 9k for only 80k, while 1.5k-4k costs 70k miles.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #253 on: August 20, 2013, 07:25:53 AM »
Discussion on FT about flying from Korea to TLV w/ routing through NYC.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1495353-can-you-via-usa-tlv-all-united-metal-ua-awards-tix.html

(Good to see that Dan is still active over there)

I've always wondered about routing from TLV to the US through Asia. I guess that it should be possible, but I never tried pricing it out.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #254 on: August 20, 2013, 11:21:13 AM »
LAX-PPT on AF = 150,000 DL miles.

LAX-PPT on AF = 90,000 KE miles.

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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #255 on: August 20, 2013, 12:02:01 PM »
LAX-PPT on AF = 150,000 DL miles.

LAX-PPT on AF = 90,000 KE miles.

Savings of 40%!
Ever see anything in J on that route though?
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #256 on: August 20, 2013, 12:07:38 PM »
Ever see anything in J on that route though?

I've seen occasionally... booking is another story.
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #257 on: October 14, 2013, 05:03:08 AM »
Anyone ever book TLV-South Pacific on AA?
Only 30/45 miles (each way).
Any issues with the published routings restrictions for this? And how is Qantas availability to/from Asia? And will they let you route through Dubai (to fly on Qantas) or Qatar? I see good availability in all classes from DXB for next year.
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2013, 11:02:29 AM »
Shouldn't be a problem.

What problem would there be? You're not transiting a third region.
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Re: Award Chart Discrepancies
« Reply #259 on: October 14, 2013, 11:17:47 AM »
Shouldn't be a problem.

What problem would there be? You're not transiting a third region.
I was referring to a published routing by the overseas carrier. Does that come into play here?