Author Topic: 9 Days siyum! (Read 12801 times)

Lamdan · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:20:58 PM »

Quote from: MarkS on July 22, 2012, 06:02:57 PM

Very not allowed.

See Mishna Berura Taf Kuf Nun Aleph:73

You are only allowed to eat meat by a siyum if:
A) You were anyway up to finishing during the 9 days and didn't rush or slow down to 'happen' to finish then.
B) You normally make a seuda when you finish a mesechta
C) You can only invite people that you normally invite to a siyum.

Many camps used to make mass siyumim totally shelo Kehilchasa and many have now stopped doing it.

IIRC, one Rabbi by the name of R' Moshe Feinstein, would disagree with your above blanket statement.

meshugener · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:22:05 PM »

And who minimize using the shower during the 9 days?

yaakov s · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:26:57 PM »

Quote from: damaxer91 on July 22, 2012, 08:02:16 PM

#JealousoftheSephardim

I don't think they eat meat during the 9 days . Anyone correct me if I'm wrong

PS I'm @ an event hosted by sfardim of Syrian origin right now which is dairy not meaty . I'm being told that " we don't eat meat"

doodley · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:11:48 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 22, 2012, 08:03:53 PM

I can't believe people make a big deal about 5 days of not meat.
I love meat as much as the next guy, but it's just not a big deal, there are just so many awesome milchig dishes, no reason to feel deprived.

some of us are allergic to milchigs,its not a big deal I made parve chulent for tonight(and kugel and kishke and cole slaw)

Dan · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:13:37 PM »

Quote from: doodley on July 22, 2012, 10:11:48 PM

some of us are allergic to milchigs,its not a big deal I made parve chulent for tonight(and kugel and kishke and cole slaw)

I feel for ya'!

Ever try taking any lactose intolerance caplets?

Avid Reader · « **Reply #25 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:27:29 PM »

Quote from: yaakov s on July 22, 2012, 09:26:57 PM

I don't think they eat meat during the 9 days . Anyone correct me if I'm wrong

PS I'm @ an event hosted by sfardim of Syrian origin right now which is dairy not meaty . I'm being told that " we don't eat meat"

I think it's only the week that Tisha Beav falls out on that they don't eat meat. So this year they're in the same boat as Ashkenazim, being that Tisha Be'av is this Shabbos, they don't eat meat the whole week.
But most years (when there is a Shabbos in middle of the 9 days) they can eat meat the first part of the 9 days, until after shabbos.

MarkS · « **Reply #26 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:33:35 PM »

Quote from: Avid Reader on July 22, 2012, 10:27:29 PM

I think it's only the week that Tisha Beav falls out on that they don't eat meat. So this year they're in the same boat as Ashkenazim, being that Tisha Be'av is this Shabbos, they don't eat meat the whole week.
But most years (when there is a Shabbos in middle of the 9 days) they can eat meat the first part of the 9 days, until after shabbos.

Correct. By Sefardim, there's no such thing as '9 days' (I think), it's only Shavuah Shechal Bo. Shaving, meat, showers etc. Sometimes it's a whole week like this year, and sometimes it's just a day or 2 (when Tisha B'av is toward the beginning of the week.

I've heard of Litvishe poskim saying that if you need to shave for parnassa, you can shave during the 3 weeks, and just not shave during shavuah shechal bo.

Dan · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:37:28 PM »

Quote from: MarkS on July 22, 2012, 10:33:35 PM

if you need to shave for parnassa

Would love to hear someone ask that question to a chabad posek

MarkS · « **Reply #28 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:41:02 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 22, 2012, 10:37:28 PM

Would love to hear someone ask that question to a chabad posek

Lol! Can't shave during the 365 days!
Someone I know asked a world famous Posek (I forgot who) in E"Y if a certain shaver is Kosher. He was told: I hold that you can't shave. If you will be shaving anyways in accordance with others psakim, this is a kosher shaver.

yaakov s · « **Reply #29 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:46:35 PM »

Quote from: MarkS on July 22, 2012, 10:33:35 PM

Correct. By Sefardim, there's no such thing as '9 days' (I think), it's only Shavuah Shechal Bo. Shaving, meat, showers etc. Sometimes it's a whole week like this year, and sometimes it's just a day or 2 (when Tisha B'av is toward the beginning of the week.

I've heard of Litvishe poskim saying that if you need to shave for parnassa, you can shave during the 3 weeks, and just not shave during shavuah shechal bo.

Quote from: Avid Reader on July 22, 2012, 10:27:29 PM

I think it's only the week that Tisha Beav falls out on that they don't eat meat. So this year they're in the same boat as Ashkenazim, being that Tisha Be'av is this Shabbos, they don't eat meat the whole week.
But most years (when there is a Shabbos in middle of the 9 days) they can eat meat the first part of the 9 days, until after shabbos.

I believe meat is not eaten from after R"C (for 8 days) . Its different then showering and shaving

Also IIRC the mechaber isn't clear if there is Shevuo Shechal Bo this year and Sefardim might even shave and swim this year too

Come on . No Sefardim around tonight

Dan · « **Reply #30 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:47:48 PM »

Quote from: MarkS on July 22, 2012, 10:41:02 PM

Lol! Can't shave during the 365 days!
Someone I know asked a world famous Posek (I forgot who) in E"Y if a certain shaver is Kosher. He was told: I hold that you can't shave. If you will be shaving anyways in accordance with others psakim, this is a kosher shaver.

And that not shaving draws down extra parnassah, so the basis of the question is faulty

MarkS · « **Reply #31 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:54:31 PM »

Quote from: yaakov s on July 22, 2012, 10:46:35 PM

I believe meat is not eaten from after R"C (for 8 days) . Its different then showering and shaving

Looks like you are right!
They start a day after us, from the 2nd of Av.

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2. It is customary to refrain from eating meat and drinking wine during the Nine Days. Sephardim do not start observing this restriction until the second day of Av (i.e., the night after Rosh Hodesh Av.) Ashkenazim abstain from meat and wine on Rosh Hodesh as well.

smurf · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:10:56 PM »

I believe this year according to some poskim the sefardim have no shevua shechul boh at all.

Saver2000 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:17:30 PM »

Quote from: smurf on July 22, 2012, 11:10:56 PM

I believe this year according to some poskim the sefardim have no shevua shechul boh at all.

Correct. It depends on the machlokes of if tisha b'av on Sunday is a nidcha, or if its really on Sunday instead of shabbos.

There are other nafka minahs as well.

jj1000 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:26:44 PM »

Quote from: MarkS on July 22, 2012, 10:41:02 PM

Lol! Can't shave during the 365 days!
Someone I know asked a world famous Posek (I forgot who) in E"Y if a certain shaver is Kosher. He was told: I hold that you can't shave. If you will be shaving anyways in accordance with others psakim, this is a kosher shaver.

wasn't rav eliyashiv against shaving with anything?