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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 01:10:48 PM »
Yes, I do think some proffesionals live in a bubble. Like the guy that deals w/ kids at risk that publicly says that 20% of kids text on shabbos.
You base your opinion of ALL professionals based on "some?" You were talking to a frum guy that works with computer recovery. You think he lives in a bubble?

Do you have a link to the guys statistics about texting. Could he have been speaking about within a certain community? 
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 01:21:00 PM »
Do a search for "Texting On Shabbos" on Google.........

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2012, 01:24:05 PM »
Its called "Half Shabbos"  :o

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2012, 01:26:02 PM »
Its called "Half Shabbos"  :o

A guy just told me that.  He grew up Yeshivish and we were talking about where he's at. He was "off" for a while and he said he keeps "half shabbos".

But in this case he's coming back.. so I thought it was a step in the right direction.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2012, 01:27:06 PM »
Do a search for "Texting On Shabbos" on Google.........
"based on their survey of 1,200 teenagers in modern Orthodox institutions. They put the percentage texting on Shabbos at 17.7 percent, with another 15.5 percent surfing the Internet, and 13.5 percent using their cell phones."

@OP why am I not surprised you left out qualifiers to the guys statement. Maybe that's why you don't trust professionals- cuz you don't know what they say when they say it.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2012, 02:19:00 PM »
its an addiction like any other

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2012, 02:23:40 PM »
KidOOO- +1

And this probelm is not unique to kids.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 02:33:56 PM »
"based on their survey of 1,200 teenagers in modern Orthodox institutions. They put the percentage texting on Shabbos at 17.7 percent, with another 15.5 percent surfing the Internet, and 13.5 percent using their cell phones."

@OP why am I not surprised you left out qualifiers to the guys statement. Maybe that's why you don't trust professionals- cuz you don't know what they say when they say it.
@jj1000, take a chill pill. I wasn't referring to that MO survey. I'm referring to a guy who said this about the general frum public.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2012, 02:36:01 PM »
You base your opinion of ALL professionals based on "some?" You were talking to a frum guy that works with computer recovery. You think he lives in a bubble?

Do you have a link to the guys statistics about texting. Could he have been speaking about within a certain community?
take a 2nd chill pill, I won't even bother to respond bec. your accusing me of things i didn't even imply, and if you think i meant what you wrote i meant, take a 3rd chill pill and think it over.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 02:55:42 PM »
I've heard these numbers from these technology pros as well but never really believed them
until recently I was talking to my Rosh Yeshiva (who also runs the local community(a decent sized city))
we didn't talk numbers but he did tell me that the amount of girls who did it was way larger than than we would like to believe

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 02:57:12 PM »
These numbers seem really hard to believe, but perhaps I'm out of touch.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 03:05:04 PM »
These numbers seem really hard to believe, but perhaps I'm out of touch.
jj1000 is fire against what i'm about to say, but i'll say it anyways. Many times when a person specializes in a problem, being that he deals with it so much, they overestimate how prevalent the problem is, it's human nature. Now if the problem is heart problems, there are scientific studies how prevalent that is, and he won't overestimate. Or if the problem is blindness, you walk in the streets and see that most ppl aren't blind. But a problem with no studies and that's hidden, I think it's human nature to overestimate.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2012, 03:06:50 PM »
I personally know 2 kids who told me that they text on shabbos one was a reg kid who is in a yeshiva and the second kid works in a store in israel he is unfortunately slowly going off the 'd' he told me the first thing that he did that started him off was text because no one can know he did it.
both are american israelis and both come from 'reg families' and went/go to reg schools
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2012, 03:07:46 PM »
Putting a number or percentage on this problem is silly and pointless.  But to ignore it and say it isnt a problem, or it isnt a problem in my community, is even more silly.  This is a growing issue that is reaching all communities. 

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2012, 03:08:46 PM »

jj1000 is fire against what i'm about to say, but i'll say it anyways. Many times when a person specializes in a problem, being that he deals with it so much, they overestimate how prevalent the problem is, it's human nature. Now if the problem is heart problems, there are scientific studies how prevalent that is, and he won't overestimate. Or if the problem is blindness, you walk in the streets and see that most ppl aren't blind. But a problem with no studies and that's hidden, I think it's human nature to overestimate.
This is not my Rosh Yeshivas life or passion but people do come over to him for help when they catch their kids texting on shabbos
BTW he is a respected Litfisch RY