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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #80 on: July 26, 2012, 05:13:23 PM »
That guy must either be dumb or simply does not care for you to know his little secret

95% of the people I know who text on shabbos told me themselves. One actually was trying to stop.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #81 on: July 26, 2012, 05:15:09 PM »
That guy must either be dumb or simply does not care for trustedyou to know his little secret
The circumstances here are extremely far from a regular yeshivsh person.

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #82 on: July 26, 2012, 05:15:27 PM »
Maybe we should make a poll of how many adults you know who text on shabbos, me personally, i don't know anyone.
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #83 on: July 26, 2012, 05:16:38 PM »
95% of the people I know who text on shabbos told me themselves. One actually was trying to stop.
I guess thats 95% of the people you know that text, theres no way to know who doesnt unless the BBM messages don't go through...
Maybe we should make a poll of how many adults you know who text on shabbos, me personally, i don't know anyone.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #84 on: July 26, 2012, 05:16:47 PM »
Since this thread started, I've davened shacharis and mincha, let me tell you i davened much harder than normal, that my children's emunah should be strong. What started as a petty argument, is actualy turning into something constructive.
You have to be a dugma chaya aka a living example of what yidishkeit is. That is every parents biggest responsibility when it comes to all this IMO. When a child sees a parent that loves their religion and openly discusses/shares it with them amazing things will happen, if not... Im glad this is being discusses your correct a lot of good could come from this thread.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #85 on: July 26, 2012, 05:16:58 PM »
And how about a poll on 'do you text on shabbos?'
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #86 on: July 26, 2012, 05:17:19 PM »
95% of the people I know who text on shabbos told me themselves. One actually was trying to stop.
it sounds like you know a lot of shabbos texters, how many do you know, hashem yerachem, i'm starting to shake.
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #87 on: July 26, 2012, 05:18:26 PM »
Since this thread started, I've davened shacharis and mincha, let me tell you i davened much harder than normal, that my children's emunah should be strong. What started as a petty argument, is actualy turning into something constructive.
My tisha bav definitely won't be the same.
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #88 on: July 26, 2012, 05:19:07 PM »
You might know someone, but you don't know that he does.
of course. it's scary.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #89 on: July 26, 2012, 05:19:39 PM »
You have to be a dugma chaya aka a living example of what yidishkeit is. That is every parents biggest responsibility when it comes to all this IMO. When a child sees a parent that loves their religion and openly discusses/shares it with them amazing things will happen, if not... Im glad this is being discusses your correct a lot of good could come from this thread.
+1.

I still believe this problem is very marginal, at least amongst adults.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #90 on: July 26, 2012, 05:19:58 PM »
I know 6 girls and 3 guys. And I know they text other acquaintances I know but I don't know who.



And I know plenty of stories from people who have friends or roommates in yeshiva or whatever it is. But obviously that's already second hand.
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #91 on: July 26, 2012, 05:21:23 PM »
I know 6 girls and 3 guys. And I know they text other acquaintances I know but I don't know who.

Maybe that doesn't seem like "a lot" but it feels like a whole lot whenever I find out.

And I know plenty of stories from people who have friends or roommates in yeshiva or whatever it is. But obviously that's already second hand.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #92 on: July 26, 2012, 06:40:18 PM »
+1.

I still believe this problem is very marginal, at least amongst adults.
I agree that amongst adults it doesnt happen at a high number (I wouldnt use the word marginal though).
But the kids of today are the adults of tomorrow and while some may stop as they mature, some will not

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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #93 on: July 26, 2012, 06:56:17 PM »
I agree that amongst adults it doesnt happen at a high number (I wouldnt use the word marginal though).
But the kids of today are the adults of tomorrow and while some may stop as they mature, some will not

Even if they do stop it has to be for the right intent.  I have one friend who feels bad and knows its wrong and then another who could care less really.
If they both stopped tomorrow just because they matured and grew out of it I'd still be pretty concerned with the girl who just doesn't do it because it's not done.

       
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #94 on: July 26, 2012, 07:14:29 PM »
Is it possible that these kids being from a different generation believe what they are doing is not wrong?
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2012, 07:18:44 PM »
Is it possible that these kids being from a different generation believe what they are doing is not wrong?
Some. But most I think know it's wrong but don't care because they don't really believe inn God, push comes to shove
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Re: Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2012, 07:33:21 PM »
Some. But most I think know it's wrong but don't care because they don't really believe inn God, push comes to shove

Believing in G-d isn't 100% or nothing either.

I think the problem is many of them never even asked themselves what they believe.
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Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2012, 07:33:56 PM »
Is it possible that these kids being from a different generation believe what they are doing is not wrong?

I'm sure some really believe that.
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Re: Re: Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2012, 08:53:04 PM »

I think the problem is many of them never even asked themselves what they believe.
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Re: Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos
« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2012, 09:51:44 PM »
Is it possible that these kids being from a different generation believe what they are doing is not wrong?
IMHO there are VERY few jewish kids raised in an orthodox home who go off the path of their parents because of mental or thought out convictions which they differ in. Rather they do it because of lust, desires, laziness, emotional trauma, lack of love or family etc. bottom line they do it based on emotions not a well contemplated belief.
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