Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos

[Lamdan]

So a cardiologist thinks the average guy has heart problems? You think professionals live in a bubble? If anything they know what most people do because they are in the field, studied it, observed it, etc.

Yes, I do think some proffesionals live in a bubble. Like the guy that deals w/ kids at risk that publicly says that 20% of kids text on shabbos.

[Ergel]

Yes, I do think some proffesionals live in a bubble. Like the guy that deals w/ kids at risk that publicly says that 20% of kids text on shabbos.

You're right, it's probably closer to 50 (maybe more like 35%, and that comes from speaking to some of my wife's students, and she teaches in a non "at risk" school). Maybe you are the one living in a bubble

[Lamdan]

You're right, it's probably closer to 50 (maybe more like 35%, and that comes from speaking to some of my wife's students, and she teaches in a non "at risk" school). Maybe you are the one living in a bubble

Give me a break!

[PlatinumGuy]

You're right, it's probably closer to 50 (maybe more like 35%, and that comes from speaking to some of my wife's students, and she teaches in a non "at risk" school). Maybe you are the one living in a bubble

I dont believe that, it's fairly easy to check for BB holders when you're in a different zone.

[Lamdan]

I dont believe that, it's fairly easy to check for BB holders when you're in a different zone.

please explain yourself, i don't follow.

[Name Changed]

please explain yourself, i don't follow.

If you send a BBM (Blackberry Message) it shows up if they read it. For someone in a different time zone - it could be shabbos for them and not for you...

[Lamdan]

You're right, it's probably closer to 50 (maybe more like 35%, and that comes from speaking to some of my wife's students, and she teaches in a non "at risk" school). Maybe you are the one living in a bubble

I spoke to my wife's students and 36% of them had a green dress, it must be that in the hundreds of thousands of kids in klal yisrael 36% wear green dresses. And BTW my 2 year old told me last night that there's a monster in his closet, I believe him, kids always say the truth and are in touch with reality.

[PlatinumGuy]

All I can say is that if that 50% figure is true, I should be crying now.

[Lamdan]

All I can say is that if that 50% figure is true, I should be crying now.

And if it's true,"Netzach yisrael lo yeshaker" is shaky.

[Ergel]

I spoke to my wife's students and 36% of them had a green dress, it must be that in the hundreds of thousands of kids in klal yisrael 36% wear green dresses. And BTW my 2 year old told me last night that there's a monster in his closet, I believe him, kids always say the truth and are in touch with reality.

Genius arguments. I'm speechless

[Lamdan]

Genius arguments. I'm speechless

oh and your argument that you can speak about general society, from your supposed conversations with your wife's students, who were so drawn in to your charismatic personality, that they started providing conffessions about their sins, and they told you that 35% of girls do the same thing, was pure genius.

[Lamdan]

I'm not really certain why this conversation ended up here - and why you guys are continuing it - you can start a new thread and discuss hypotheticals and problems with todays generation! This is a computer topic

Let a mod move it. BTW, welcome to the forums.

[Dan]

Let a mod move it. BTW, welcome to the forums.

If you ever need mod action just click on "report to moderator"

[outinstyle]

Very scary. I heard this number before, yet I hope it is just an exaggeration.

[sky121]

Very scary. I heard this number before, yet I hope it is just an exaggeration.

It's not even the specific number that's scary. It's the fact that there is any number/group of people who find it 'acceptable' to do this on shabbos.
And it's scary because a lot of these kids would never drive on shabbos or eat not kosher in a million years. It's kind of just this one thing.

It's also because it's so easy to do in private.

And I can't imagine it's easy to stop once you start.

[jj1000]

Yes, I do think some proffesionals live in a bubble. Like the guy that deals w/ kids at risk that publicly says that 20% of kids text on shabbos.

You base your opinion of ALL professionals based on "some?" You were talking to a frum guy that works with computer recovery. You think he lives in a bubble?

Do you have a link to the guys statistics about texting. Could he have been speaking about within a certain community? 

[outinstyle]

Do a search for "Texting On Shabbos" on Google.........

[outinstyle]

Its called "Half Shabbos" 

[sky121]

Its called "Half Shabbos" 

A guy just told me that.  He grew up Yeshivish and we were talking about where he's at. He was "off" for a while and he said he keeps "half shabbos".

But in this case he's coming back.. so I thought it was a step in the right direction.

[jj1000]

Do a search for "Texting On Shabbos" on Google.........

"based on their survey of 1,200 teenagers in modern Orthodox institutions. They put the percentage texting on Shabbos at 17.7 percent, with another 15.5 percent surfing the Internet, and 13.5 percent using their cell phones."

@OP why am I not surprised you left out qualifiers to the guys statement. Maybe that's why you don't trust professionals- cuz you don't know what they say when they say it.