Percentage Of Kids Texting On Shabbos

[Lamdan]

+1 IMHO the root of this problem is these girls don't really have a hergesh for yiddishkite its become subject where you study for tests and not so much think about emunah and bitachon

Earlier in this thread, meshugener rated a comment tops of thread. I rate this comment tops of the thread. The schools are so busy making the girls educated, how about some emunah and bitachon.

[Dan]

Without being in a different time zone it's very hard to tell, as they know not to text to you. How exactly they establish who is in the "shabbos" list, I don't know.

Meh, there are 15 or so young Chabad couples that live around me in CLE and I'd be utterly shocked to find this happening among them.

[sky121]

Earlier in this thread, meshugener rated a comment tops of thread. I rate this comment tops of the thread. The schools are so busy making the girls educated, how about some emunah and bitachon.

If they we're getting it from home it wouldn't be so bad. The problem is its not coming from any direction.

[sky121]

Meh, there are 15 or so young Chabad couples that live around me in CLE and I'd be utterly shocked to find this happening among them.

And it might not be. But it is happening at whatever percentage big or small. 

[jj1000]

Meh, there are 15 or so young Chabad couples that live around me in CLE and I'd be utterly shocked to find this happening among them.

again every community is different. Like I said before in Chabad if someone is trying they will go further than just that. Hence it'd be more apparent.

[jj1000]

Earlier in this thread, meshugener rated a comment tops of thread. I rate this comment tops of the thread. The schools are so busy making the girls educated, how about some emunah and bitachon.

+1 also I will also never understand communities that look down on teens for asking questions like does hashem exists etc.

@Lamdan i'm chilling so I decided to drop our earlier discussion.

[meshugener]

And of course there's a huge difference between married and singles.

[Lamdan]

@Lamdan i'm chilling so I decided to drop our earlier discussion.

Since this thread started, I've davened shacharis and mincha, let me tell you i davened much harder than normal, that my children's emunah should be strong. What started as a petty argument, is actualy turning into something constructive.

[KidOOO]

http://torahmusings.com/2011/07/texting-on-shabbos/

Man, if not for this "chabura" how would us simple people know not to txt on shabbat??

[sky121]

+1 also I will also never understand communities that look down on teens for asking questions like does hashem exist

It always surprises me when I hear specific stories like that. I can't believe that goes on esp in the yeshivish small town cities.

[Dan]

again every community is different. Like I said before in Chabad if someone is trying they will go further than just that. Hence it'd be more apparent.

I hear ya'

[PlatinumGuy]

Meh, there are 15 or so young Chabad couples that live around me in CLE and I'd be utterly shocked to find this happening among them.

'Shock' would not come close to describing how I felt the first person I saw reading my BBM msg on Shabbos. I didn't believe it until the 3rd shabbos it happened.

Also, I would assume its more prevalent amongst less than typical, whole, functioning families.

[KidOOO]

Since this thread started, I've davened shacharis and mincha, let me tell you i davened much harder than normal, that my children's emunah should be strong.

While the power of prayer is strong, actual steps need to be taken to establish strong emunah in our youth. I don't remember seeing much focus on that im my days in school, and i have a feeling not much has changed

[ChAiM'l]

 

+1 also I will also never understand communities that look down on teens for asking questions like does hashem exists etc.

Do such communities still exist?? 

[sky121]

Since this thread started, I've davened shacharis and mincha, let me tell you i davened much harder than normal, that my children's emunah should be strong. What started as a petty argument, is actualy turning into something constructive.

I wonder if that's what it Is. Emunah. That keeps most kids from not texting. I'm not sure thats it exactly. Though obviously if you have emunah you won't hopefully be texting on shabbos.

[KidOOO]

'Shock' would not come close to describing how I felt the first person I saw reading my BBM msg on Shabbos. I didn't believe it until the 3rd shabbos it happened.

That guy must either be dumb or simply does not care for you to know his little secret

[Lamdan]

While the power of prayer is strong, actual steps need to be taken to establish strong emunah in our youth. I don't remember seeing much focus on that im my days in school, and i have a feeling not much has changed

couldn't agree with you more.

[sky121]

People are empty inside. And have lower self esteem and aren't really happy. And when you're not happy it's hard to keep shabbos. And when you're lonely or not happy you need distraction. And texting is a good one because it's easy to hide. And do in your home etc . That's for sure a big reason many of the people texting on shabbos are doing it.

[Lamdan]

I wonder if that's what it Is. Emunah. That keeps most kids from not texting. I'm not sure thats it exactly. Though obviously if you have emunah you won't hopefully be texting on shabbos.

they're still young ka"h, all i can do now is prayer and love.

[jj1000]

Do such communities still exist?? 

With out doubt. Happens to be I read devorah feldman's book and you know it's not all lies. That's not a proof it exists but she is a prime example of a person coming from such a type of community. There are others too. Even worse is some communities that they let kids ask and the rabbis or parents answers just suck. But that's already getting very technical in hashkafa which i'm sure many people disagree on.