Author Topic: Safe drinks to order at bars (Read 7628 times)

ms · « **on:** July 27, 2012, 11:22:52 AM »

Hey,
My wife and I are going to Puerto Rico in Aug and I wanted to know what are “safe” mixes kosher wise, that we would be able to get at the bars.

Dan · « **Reply #1 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:27:40 AM »

Disaronno Amaretto and ginger ale is delicious.

ms · « **Reply #2 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:34:32 AM »

Dan,
Thanks for the suggestion, I will definitely give it a try. Do you have any other ideas maybe a little fruiter for the wife, as one drink for 3 days can get boring.

YankyDoodle · « **Reply #3 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:37:24 AM »

Many bars (especially in tropical locations) use fresh fruit in their mixes. I had a drink once made of I believe tequila with a slice of watermelon in it, was delicious! Use your good judgement

Hudi · « **Reply #4 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:38:19 AM »

Whiskey Sour?

BrooklynCPA · « **Reply #5 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:13:20 PM »

Cranberry Vodka. I believe seabreeze and screwdrivers are fine too but I'm no Rabbi!

AsherO · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:16:27 PM »

Do you guys think there is/isn't an issue with the knife they use for cutting the fruit?

Mikeoracle · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:24:38 PM »

We have accountants and Lawyers on the forums, but no Rabbis? :-)

yid · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:44:17 PM »

Quote from: Mikeoracle on July 27, 2012, 12:24:38 PM

We have accountants and Lawyers on the forums, but no Rabbis? :-)

Try paging Rabbi Chaikel..

Quote from: AsherO on July 27, 2012, 12:16:27 PM

Do you guys think there is/isn't an issue with the knife they use for cutting the fruit?

Definately an issue at least lechatchilah even if the knife is clean and everything is cold. Another thing to bear in mind when Ch"V hoing to a bar is that lemon is likely a davar charif and therefore the lemon/lime in the drink is not kosher.

Mikeoracle · « **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:48:40 PM »

Quote from: yid on July 27, 2012, 12:44:17 PM

Try paging Rabbi Chaikel..

Actually, doesnt Dan have Smicha?

AsherO · « **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:49:16 PM »

Quote from: Mikeoracle on July 27, 2012, 12:48:40 PM

Actually, doesnt Dan have Smicha?

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Aben · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:14:36 PM »

Quote from: yid on July 27, 2012, 12:44:17 PM

Another thing to bear in mind when Ch"V hoing to a bar is that lemon is likely a davar charif and therefore the lemon/lime in the drink is not kosher.

If lots of lemons were cut it may not be a prob...ask ur LOR

Mikeoracle · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:17:11 PM »

Quote from: Aben on July 27, 2012, 01:14:36 PM

If lots of lemons were cut it may not be a prob...ask ur LOR

So ask for a dozen fresh lemonades and then followed by daquiri's and colada's? :-)

Name Changed · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:23:50 PM »

Quote from: Mikeoracle on July 27, 2012, 01:17:11 PM

So ask for a dozen fresh lemonades and then followed by daquiri's and colada's? :-)

Lemons are a Davar Charif - so it would be an issue if they cut it with a treif knife.

Other fruit wouldn't be a problem

Edit: I didnt realize Yid posted this

Mikeoracle · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:05:34 PM »

Quote from: Name Changed on July 27, 2012, 01:23:50 PM

Lemons are a Davar Charif - so it would be an issue if they cut it with a treif knife.

I was commenting in response to

Quote from: Aben on July 27, 2012, 01:14:36 PM

If lots of lemons were cut it may not be a prob...ask ur LOR

jj1000 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2012, 02:09:44 PM »

Quote from: Mikeoracle on July 27, 2012, 02:05:34 PM

I was commenting in response to

There are varying modern day opinions so a random Rabbi won't cut it in this case. Many hold if the knife is only used to cut fruit or even lemons then it's kosher. This is probably the case if no food is served and it's a designated knife.

mek · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2012, 04:00:16 PM »

You could assume by any american place (should probably include puerto rico at least in a hotel establishment) that they have designated knifes by the bar. Same reasoning applies to why its muter to order a cold plain vegetable or fruit salad at a treif restaurant. what about a tom collins? it has gin lemon and club soda or some places use sprite to cut out the lemon (then there would be no issue of the knife)

JEWDA · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2012, 05:09:00 PM »

Quote from: Mikeoracle on July 27, 2012, 12:24:38 PM

We have accountants and Lawyers on the forums, but no Rabbis? :-)

The rabbi will just tell you not to go to puerto Rico

jj1000 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2012, 06:04:24 PM »

Quote from: JEWDA on July 27, 2012, 05:09:00 PM

The rabbi will just tell you not to go to puerto Rico

idk what rabbi you go to, but mine would say if I invite him with he'll show me what we can drink

Quote from: mek on July 27, 2012, 04:00:16 PM

You could assume by any american place (should probably include puerto rico at least in a hotel establishment) that they have designated knifes by the bar. Same reasoning applies to why its muter to order a cold plain vegetable or fruit salad at a treif restaurant. what about a tom collins? it has gin lemon and club soda or some places use sprite to cut out the lemon (then there would be no issue of the knife)

There are modern day poskim who don't hold of a designated knife being kosher. When I learned smicha I was taught you can not rely on it. Although I hold you can

Hudi · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2012, 10:36:42 PM »

Quote from: jj1000 on July 27, 2012, 06:04:24 PM

There are modern day poskim who don't hold of a designated knife being kosher. When I learned smicha I was taught you can not rely on it. Although I hold you can

You can just ask them. And it should be considered masiach lefi tumoi as they don't really know why you are asking.