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Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« on: July 30, 2012, 01:09:41 PM »
What health insurance options do I have in NY? 

My wife and I are currently employed but we are both 1099 independent contractors (no benefits), and we are currently on Medicaid / Americhoice.  However, the medicaid is up for renewal quite soon, and we won't qualify for it anymore, as our income is over the limit.  I have 2 children under the age of 5 and I need to sign them up for health insurance soon. 

From what I know, I will need to pay about $1500 a month in NY for health insurance for my family.  That is totally unaffordable for me right now. 

Are there any other options? What can I do?

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 01:20:05 PM »
Sign up for a higher deductible HSA account and fund the HSA to the max.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 02:11:16 PM »
HealthyNY is the way to go for you!
Go to www.healthyNY.com for details.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 02:45:15 PM »
HealthyNY is the way to go for you!
Go to www.healthyNY.com for details.

Very interesting, although monthly income of $2,327 is about $28K annually which is pretty low..

I am looking for a health insurance as well but can't seems to find anything affordable

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 03:46:28 PM »
There isn't a blanket income cap.
Depends on more factors, especially size of household.
Hard to go into detail without knowledge of your personal situation.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 04:12:37 PM »
There isn't a blanket income cap.
Depends on more factors, especially size of household.
Hard to go into detail without knowledge of your personal situation.

makes sense

How is this diff the medicaid, higher income limit?

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 04:21:31 PM »
Sign up for a higher deductible HSA account and fund the HSA to the max.

Some more insight into that comment:

What are High Deductible Health Plans?

A high deductible health plan (HDHP) is a health insurance plan that meets certain requirements in three key benefit areas - deductible, out-of-pocket maximum, and first-dollar coverage. These requirements are as follows:

Deductible: A minimum annual deductible of $1,200 for individual (self-only) coverage or $2,400 for family (more than one individual) coverage.

Out-of-Pocket Maximum: The annual out-of-pocket maximum for "In-Network" expenses cannot exceed $5,950 for individual
coverage or $11,900 for family coverage. This refers to the amount of money an insured would have to pay before the insurance
carrier would pay for 100% of any additional medical expenses incurred in that same year. It includes deductibles, co-payments
and co-insurance expenses. It does not include premium payments.

First dollar coverage can only be available for preventive care, such as an annual physical.
Other than preventive care, the insured must satisfy their deductible before any co-payment
or co-insurance benefits can go into effect.

Above quote from: http://www.hsaconnect.com/q&a/hsa-q&a.php

IMHO... you could be paying monthly and then g-d forbid end up in need of hospital stay, they will hit you up for a bill of $5950 or $11900 (family) before they start paying $.01 toward your insurance claim.

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2012, 04:53:38 PM »
That's if you get the highest possible. I've experimented between 3k and 5k family with all premiums and spending being tax deductible and the HSA funds earning 3%.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 05:30:32 PM »
Some more insight into that comment:

What are High Deductible Health Plans?

A high deductible health plan (HDHP) is a health insurance plan that meets certain requirements in three key benefit areas - deductible, out-of-pocket maximum, and first-dollar coverage. These requirements are as follows:

Deductible: A minimum annual deductible of $1,200 for individual (self-only) coverage or $2,400 for family (more than one individual) coverage.

Out-of-Pocket Maximum: The annual out-of-pocket maximum for "In-Network" expenses cannot exceed $5,950 for individual
coverage or $11,900 for family coverage. This refers to the amount of money an insured would have to pay before the insurance
carrier would pay for 100% of any additional medical expenses incurred in that same year. It includes deductibles, co-payments
and co-insurance expenses. It does not include premium payments.

First dollar coverage can only be available for preventive care, such as an annual physical.
Other than preventive care, the insured must satisfy their deductible before any co-payment
or co-insurance benefits can go into effect.

Above quote from: http://www.hsaconnect.com/q&a/hsa-q&a.php

IMHO... you could be paying monthly and then g-d forbid end up in need of hospital stay, they will hit you up for a bill of $5950 or $11900 (family) before they start paying $.01 toward your insurance claim.



So how does this work with the HSA account

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 06:37:39 PM »
HealthyNY has way higher income eligibility than Medicaid.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2012, 10:22:18 PM »
If your income is too high for HealthyNY then look into getting a couples HDHP plan and Child Health Plus for your kids. CHP has no income limit, just a sliding scale of cost <-> income.

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 12:28:31 AM »
If your income is too high for HealthyNY then look into getting a couples HDHP plan and Child Health Plus for your kids. CHP has no income limit, just a sliding scale of cost <-> income.

Thanks, iv'e heard about this before but couldn't get much info on it

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 04:50:09 PM »
If your income is too high for HealthyNY then look into getting a couples HDHP plan and Child Health Plus for your kids. CHP has no income limit, just a sliding scale of cost <-> income.
healthy ny has an hdhp option. where else can you get a hdhp without healthy ny?

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 07:08:33 PM »
healthy ny has an hdhp option. where else can you get a hdhp without healthy ny?
I believe most carriers offer HDHP options... You can probably find a few through here.

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 07:40:43 PM »
That's if you get the highest possible. I've experimented between 3k and 5k family with all premiums and spending being tax deductible and the HSA funds earning 3%.

Is all spending for health insurance tax deductible, or with only certain plans?

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 10:03:14 PM »
Is all spending for health insurance tax deductible, or with only certain plans?
If you are only getting 1099s they should be.
But only with an HSA can you also write off money spent on all medical spending as well.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2012, 01:32:05 AM »
If you are only getting 1099s they should be.
But only with an HSA can you also write off money spent on all medical spending as well.
Thanks.
Is the deductible and co-payments considered medical spending or part of the cost of healthcare? Where can I read up more on this? I need to figure this out.

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2012, 08:56:34 AM »
Its all tax deductible on an HSA plan.
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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2012, 10:36:27 PM »
Its all tax deductible on an HSA plan.
Alas I never set up an HSA. Time to do it now. Thanks.

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Re: Cheap Health Insurance in NY- Options?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2012, 02:21:54 PM »
HealthyNY has way higher income eligibility than Medicaid.
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