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Europe May 2010 Trip Planning Thread.
« on: March 11, 2010, 12:52:13 PM »
So I'm trying to make a trip to Europe in May with my wife.
I would definitely like to hit up Paris and stay in the supreme goodness that is the $2,000/night Park Hyatt Vendome.

If we were to go to one other European city what would you recommend?
Ideally it should have an SPG or Hyatt presence, but if not I'm sure we'll be able to find someplace to stay at for free :)
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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 12:57:36 PM »
if you wanna fly than italy or prague
or amsterdam by train

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 01:05:45 PM »
if you wanna fly than italy or prague
or amsterdam by train
Where in Italy?
Venice?
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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 01:18:59 PM »
i think madrid and barcelona are great

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 01:35:24 PM »
Where in Italy?
Venice?

Venice, yes max 3 days

Milano, NO

Rome yes

Florence yes, max 1 day

Pisa yes, max 1/2 day

Pompei/Vesuvius yes, 1 day max

Naples/Sorento/Amalfi yes, min 2 day (in Naples you WILL get robbed)


Thats basic Italy,

if you need more info on more countries, let me know.

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 01:36:55 PM »
i think madrid and barcelona are great

You want to go to Barcelona, however, unless your are arranging with stopovers, I'd visit a bit more of a country then just one city.

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 01:53:51 PM »
You want to go to Barcelona, however, unless your are arranging with stopovers, I'd visit a bit more of a country then just one city.
It's going to be with stopovers, so probably 2 cities in Europe max.

Unless there are any other cities that can be "seen" in less than 24 hours to qualify as a connection instead of a stopover.

So would you recommend doing Paris and Venice?  How many days in each?

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 02:11:49 PM »
It's going to be with stopovers, so probably 2 cities in Europe max.

Unless there are any other cities that can be "seen" in less than 24 hours to qualify as a connection instead of a stopover.

So would you recommend doing Paris and Venice?  How many days in each?



If you use aeroplan miles, you can have 10 stops as well.

Venice takes 2 days to see it all, 3 days if you do it a little be'iyun, with the islands)

Its very nice to be shabbos there, chabad invites toons of people there, basically a very special atmosphere.

Paris is tricky, depends your 'tolerance' to culture, etc.

I would add IST to your list (2 days) if you dont look to jewish, before its too late. I loved it.

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 03:11:53 PM »
If you use aeroplan miles, you can have 10 stops as well.

Venice takes 2 days to see it all, 3 days if you do it a little be'iyun, with the islands)

Its very nice to be shabbos there, chabad invites toons of people there, basically a very special atmosphere.

Paris is tricky, depends your 'tolerance' to culture, etc.

I would add IST to your list (2 days) if you dont look to jewish, before its too late. I loved it.

IST is worth it just to fly the TK 77W!

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 04:15:37 PM »
If you use aeroplan miles, you can have 10 stops as well.

Venice takes 2 days to see it all, 3 days if you do it a little be'iyun, with the islands)

Its very nice to be shabbos there, chabad invites toons of people there, basically a very special atmosphere.

Paris is tricky, depends your 'tolerance' to culture, etc.

I would add IST to your list (2 days) if you dont look to jewish, before its too late. I loved it.
I don't have Aeroplan miles...but how would you make 10 stopovers, I thought the limit was 2?
Their miles get me nervous because of the rough expiration dates and the fuel surcharges that can always apply to all *A travel at their whim.

So you recommended being in Venice for Shabbos over the Park Hyatt Paris/Vendome?
Is Paris a 2 day city? 4 days?

I've got a beard...not so sure that IST is the best of ideas.
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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 04:22:53 PM »
IST is worth it just to fly the TK 77W!
Better than flying SQ to FRA?
I'm probably going to redeem 100K/125K US in J or F for the trip.  Although if I can go in early May I may rough in on AA/BA for 40K in Y.
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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 07:34:50 PM »
Okay, lets set a few things straight:

while i'm typing here now, I'm booking with aeroplan an open jaw return from the usa to europe, with 5 flights in europe (including a 5 day stop, which is not the open jaw part).

Their taxes are usually very low, and if by mistake they are higher, you just call again a few hours later, and all will be alright.

The best is to mix airlines, not just use LH (or LX), then you have almost a guaranteed failure in their tax calculations.

The SQ FRA-JFK you will not be able to book in First.

The overnight stay in IST you can get a free hotel (shuttle to hotel, and limo back for free) [ask for the www.grandyavuzhotel.com].

In Istanbul stick to the Sultanahmet area, which is the most interesting.

If you are dressed with the flow it'll be alright. Remember, Turks aren't Arabs, and don't dare call them this.

Worst come to worse, you buy a nanach yarmulke, but without the writing, and youll blend right in with your beard. Just wear slippers to make it complete.

Btw, they just got the taxes loaded. incl their CAD30 its CAD174, which is excellent for a 6 legged trip.

In Venice Id stay in the Ghetto Vechio area. The point is being in local hotels, to feel the vibes, not in a too posh western standard hotels.

Stay a little longer then shabbos, i.e. have say the whole friday and sunday to tour. (there is a eruv there).


Paris depends on your wife and your own love for art, architecture and the likes.

(not wanting to judge, an average american would be fedup after two days, as "everything" looks the same to him.)

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 01:19:54 AM »
i dont agree. paris is beautiful. you can wander around for hours. venice indeed is an experience, but i went there mid summer so im not sure in may. rome might be another option. good kosher food, a beautiful shul, archaeology that will blow your mind, and you could see everything you READ in angels & demons.

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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2010, 01:38:08 AM »
i dont agree. paris is beautiful. you can wander around for hours. venice indeed is an experience, but i went there mid summer so im not sure in may. rome might be another option. good kosher food, a beautiful shul, archaeology that will blow your mind, and you could see everything you READ in angels & demons.
Is there really that much for an frum jew to do in Rome once you knock out the churches?

Paris and Venice sounds like a nice trip...now I just need to figure out how to get both onto one *A award ticket...
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Re: Favorite European Cities?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 04:56:25 AM »
Try and incorporate at least 2 of these into your flying experience as they are the best that Europe has to offer:

1. TK 77W in F (Still the best F product in my opinion, though I have not flown EK (yet ;))
2. LX 333 in F or J (from ZRH or GVA to NY and possibly ZRH-ORD as well in the Spring)
3. SQ F from JFK-FRA-JFK (VERY HARD to get using partner miles though extremely easy using SQ miles)
4. LH First Class Terminal in FRA (Don't forget to call before to order your 5 course kosher meal)
 
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