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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2010, 01:24:29 PM »
Steve2 I'm sure you realize that it can be 1500 dollars for another seat.

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2010, 01:34:23 PM »
Steve2 I'm sure you realize that it can be 1500 dollars for another seat.

 so? if I cant afford it then I shouldnt be flying! or at least not complaining that we have to hold the baby/kid

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2010, 01:59:39 PM »
Oh! absolutely we had to hold our baby TLV- EWR and not complaining! I understood that you meant in general.

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2010, 02:24:52 PM »
Nobody is complaining here. The airline doesn't owe me anything.
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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2010, 03:01:19 PM »
What airlines were these? Domestic? Intl?
yyz-jfk-tlv-rom,nap-vce,flr-rom-tlv-jfk-lax-yyz-jfk-waw-tlv-zrh-jfk-lax-ord-yyz-jfk-bru-tlv-bcn,mad-lis-mad-mal-mad-tlv-jfk-lax-yyz-jfk-tlv-amm-del-agr-del-hkg-pvg-xiy-pek-nrt-hnl-lax-yyz-jfk-mad-tlv-led-dme-kbp-ath-her-ath-tlv,   so i guess a mixture of both (btw its 53 not 42)

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2010, 03:10:37 PM »
yyz-jfk-tlv-rom,nap-vce,flr-rom-tlv-jfk-lax-yyz-jfk-waw-tlv-zrh-jfk-lax-ord-yyz-jfk-bru-tlv-bcn,mad-lis-mad-mal-mad-tlv-jfk-lax-yyz-jfk-tlv-amm-del-agr-del-hkg-pvg-xiy-pek-nrt-hnl-lax-yyz-jfk-mad-tlv-led-dme-kbp-ath-her-ath-tlv,   so i guess a mixture of both (btw its 53 not 42)
Wow u really keep a cheshbon! dont know what to tell you. In every scenario we were braced with the idea of holding him, but were able to get an extra seat without a problem except for once when the flight was full. About 50/50 on domestic vs intl.

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2010, 10:38:13 PM »
in the 42 segments i took with my kid in the last 2 years, id say 90% of the time when i had the car seat by the door of the plane, they asked me whether the child has her own seat.
And what happened when they asked you? Did you say no ;)
Do they actually follow up if it's the truth?

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2010, 02:04:16 AM »
i either had a seat, or arranged with a gate agent to block the seat next to me. otherwise i wouldnt even try

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2010, 07:18:12 AM »
so? if I cant afford it then I shouldnt be flying! or at least not complaining that we have to hold the baby/kid

Steve nobody was complaining, you were complaining to the guy!!!

I think most guys with kids here will agree. If its 1500 USD more I rather take a chance, that I have to hold him. Normally a flight is not 100% full and there will be a extra seat free.

From my last 15 trips, I always had a free seat next to me, the one time I didnt I held him. Was it comfortable? not really, but buying a extra seat on all 15 flight would have been about 8000 USD extra, so for that money I will hold him once.

When I check in, I ask the agent if the flight is full, if not I ask them to leave a middle seat open between us. So if I have A, my wife C, then the Chance that someone will take B is quite small, since its not an a window or aisle. I take the carseat along to the gate. Before boarding I ask the agent if the seat between us remained empty, so I can bring the carseat. It always was besides for once, so then I gave them my carseat to store it in the luggage. Big deal!


If the guy is nice, he will block the seat by check in, if you ask nicely

If the ask you by the plane door if the child has his own seat, then you should just say, the agent left one open for her. The crew does not care if you paid for it, they just dont want you to unload it again from the plane in middle of boarding

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2010, 10:40:34 AM »
Steve nobody was complaining, you were complaining to the guy!!!

I think most guys with kids here will agree. If its 1500 USD more I rather take a chance, that I have to hold him. Normally a flight is not 100% full and there will be a extra seat free.

From my last 15 trips, I always had a free seat next to me, the one time I didnt I held him. Was it comfortable? not really, but buying a extra seat on all 15 flight would have been about 8000 USD extra, so for that money I will hold him once.

When I check in, I ask the agent if the flight is full, if not I ask them to leave a middle seat open between us. So if I have A, my wife C, then the Chance that someone will take B is quite small, since its not an a window or aisle. I take the carseat along to the gate. Before boarding I ask the agent if the seat between us remained empty, so I can bring the carseat. It always was besides for once, so then I gave them my carseat to store it in the luggage. Big deal!


If the guy is nice, he will block the seat by check in, if you ask nicely

If the ask you by the plane door if the child has his own seat, then you should just say, the agent left one open for her. The crew does not care if you paid for it, they just dont want you to unload it again from the plane in middle of boarding

 I wasnt complaining as you are, after all elikay and txtmax4 answered me very nicely, seems for whatever reason you are always looking to nitpik.

 and yes at 1st it did seem that people werent too happy. It just sounded to me like those checking into a Hotel and finding out they actually got what they reserved for a room and really didnt want that type of room and thought they get the better room via an Upgrade. I always say, book what you want to end up with, so if you need a Mountain view then book it, if it doesnt make a difference if you dont get it dont complain.

It sounded to me that some folks were none too happy ending up having to hold their kids, thats all, I dont see why you are trying to make a Mountain out of a Mole Hill. and all I did was ask if you dont want to hold your kid why  not buy the extra seat to make sure you wont have to.


 I can tell you this from my non-Israeli trips this summer almost every flight was 100% full in coach and biz, Flying is alot less Fun then it used to be and its not getting any better

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2010, 11:36:36 AM »
I wasnt complaining as you are, after all elikay and txtmax4 answered me very nicely, seems for whatever reason you are always looking to nitpik.

 and yes at 1st it did seem that people werent too happy. It just sounded to me like those checking into a Hotel and finding out they actually got what they reserved for a room and really didnt want that type of room and thought they get the better room via an Upgrade. I always say, book what you want to end up with, so if you need a Mountain view then book it, if it doesnt make a difference if you dont get it dont complain.

It sounded to me that some folks were none too happy ending up having to hold their kids, thats all, I dont see why you are trying to make a Mountain out of a Mole Hill. and all I did was ask if you dont want to hold your kid why  not buy the extra seat to make sure you wont have to.


 I can tell you this from my non-Israeli trips this summer almost every flight was 100% full in coach and biz, Flying is alot less Fun then it used to be and its not getting any better

Steve I didnt try to nitpik, as you call it. I am sorry if you took it this way.

Nobody is happy if they have to hold them, but I realize this might happen!




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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2010, 01:46:17 PM »

Nobody is happy if they have to hold them, but I realize this might happen!


 which I know understand to be what most people feel, but when I posted my 1st post I didnt. It originally sounded as if everyone was complaining and I simply thought if its that bad why not ante up the $$ and purchase a seat for the kid/baby.

 Now I also understood thats theres a $ factor to having to buy an extra seat so then why not leave the kid/baby and go w/o them. Yes I do know people that will go away and leave their kids/baby with either parents or a sibling, and yes I imagine not everyone can do this or would want to even if they could

 I imagine its worst of the TLV non-stops where most likely there will be any number of babies/kids and everyone wanting the bassenet area or empty seats next to them.

Nothing new as people have been flying to/from TLV with kids/babies for yrs and generations before this current one, and they seemed to have managed

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2010, 08:09:07 PM »
 i was able to take water bottles from jfk to israel. the tsa security recommended that i put the water in the diaper bag.

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Re: Flying With Babies
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2010, 09:19:26 PM »
You could take whatever you want (not sure about blue label) as long as it in the diaper bag ;D !

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Re: Infant Travel
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2011, 02:15:47 AM »
I will be flying domestically and my child is turning 2 before the return. I know the airline may SAY I need to purchase a 1 way return for him, but how will they know he is 2? Will I need to present any ID to prove his age on the way there - and hence be unable to put him on my lap on the way back, or can I wing it free both ways without showing any ID??