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LMS - Last Man Standing.. Not FMS (First Man Standing) - This game is for night time only, not morning, afternoon, or evening.. NIGHT TIME ONLY!!

At night while most of the world is sleeping there are some members which are looking to socialize since they have no one else to speak to; they play a really exciting and fun game which basically every couple minutes you write a comment, the comments range from standing to sleeping, from young grasshoppers to old grasshoppers. it usually begins around 1:00 am EDT

RULES OF THE GAME:

1) Game starts at 1am Eastern, 12am Central, 11pm mountain, 10pm pacific... You get the point.
2) Anyone can call a roll call, just make a reply with "Roll Call". The roll call must be readable to the naked eye.
3) No more than one roll call every thirty minutes.
4) You have 30 minutes to respond to the roll call to stay active.
5) To respond to a roll call just post a reply with "Here" or "y y y"
6) If after one hour there are no more "Roll Calls" or "Heres", then the last person to post correctly either by calling a roll call or with a reply of "here" is declared winner of LMS.
7)You must have been awake for at least 12 hours before making or answering a RC.



OR IN SHORT:

When someone calls for a roll call. No more than one every 30 minutes and you have 30 minutes to respond "Here".


Poll

If Men Could Become Pregnant, Would You?

Yes, I love delivering babies!
Noooooo! I'm afraid....
Not sure. I'll ask my LOR

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Re: Why Not Say The F Word?
« Reply #9080 on: December 24, 2015, 10:38:14 PM »
You can be an atheist and still be moral,  supposedly.

Well my Ethics teacher is a devout Atheist, I had the privilege of learning  nonsense  important stuff on Kant's theory of moral relativism....wow I'm talking way too much about school on here...DDF is supposed to be my break from school lol.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9081 on: December 24, 2015, 10:39:04 PM »
It's funny how the most selfish spoiled generation in history (I'm referring to the whole Western world) has the least children.
Yet people will argue that those that have a lot of children are selfish.


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Re: Why Not Say The F Word?
« Reply #9082 on: December 24, 2015, 10:39:12 PM »
If not an expression of relief, I believe I did come across some studies that claimed cursing actually provided relief from pain (like cursing after stubbing your toe, etc.)

Interesting...guess there is some truth.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9083 on: December 24, 2015, 10:39:42 PM »
Fair enough. Although I doubt sheer laziness is ever the sole reason.
Thats part of the discussion here. Yes i know first hand a few people that are on BC due to sheer laziness.  Thats why im bothered by it.  Now you ask how i know the reason, that's a whole other discussion
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9084 on: December 24, 2015, 10:40:01 PM »
Fair enough. Although I doubt sheer laziness is ever the sole reason.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9085 on: December 24, 2015, 10:40:42 PM »
Thats part of the discussion here. Yes i know first hand a few people that are on BC due to sheer laziness.  Thats why im bothered by it.  Now you ask how i know the reason, that's a whole other discussion

How do you know? ;)


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Re: Why Not Say The F Word?
« Reply #9086 on: December 24, 2015, 10:41:05 PM »

You can be an atheist and still be moral,  supposedly.

I disagree. Morality is entirely dependent on religion. Without religion there's no reason why the law of the jungle shouldn't be the law.

But what's that got to do with cursing?
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9087 on: December 24, 2015, 10:41:59 PM »


YOU ARE MISSING THE MAIN POINT HERE.

The Mitzvah m'derbunan I'lerev Al Tanach Yudchuh is a fact. Still there is a thing called BC that causes the hormones or whatever not to work properly which causes not to get pregnant. This is called a Gerumeh of some sort which R Moshe says does not make someone violating the Mitzvah m'derbunan above. Answer this please. I don't argue that there is a Mitzvah to have even a billion kids.


Two issues.
A: Chiyuv pru urvu mideorayso is one boy and one girl. Miderabonon more is required.
B:  depending on forms of BC there could be problems with h'zl and niddah.
I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly. The best I can do is tell you that any geramah sevaros can only help for issue B.
For A, if you have a mitzvah to bring children you don't become potur by causing the children not to be born. It's just illogical to me.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9088 on: December 24, 2015, 10:43:18 PM »
What crazy stuff are you referring to?
Please don't answer if it's nivul peh.
Taking 'natural' vitamins with unknown sources....
Or people who have a hard time breastfeeding, and won't stop because they don't want to become preg...
My point is, why isn't it the norm to be on bc? Why shouldn't you be on bc even when you don't need a 'break'? Just for the piece of mind...

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9089 on: December 24, 2015, 10:43:38 PM »

Sorry you are stepping right into a huge pet peeve of mine... if getting nachas from ones children is factoring into the equation at all than maybe that person should be on birth control. ..

Having any children in the first place is also a pretty selfish act.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9090 on: December 24, 2015, 10:44:58 PM »

I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly. The best I can do is tell you that any geramah sevaros can only help for issue B.
For A, if you have a mitzvah to bring children you don't become potur by causing the children not to be born. It's just illogical to me.
@CBC is making a great point.
@ilherman, where's the Rav Moshe? And are you sure he's addressing issue A? It really wouldn't make any sense.

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Re: What's wrong with walking around naked?
« Reply #9091 on: December 24, 2015, 10:47:46 PM »
Sure, along with the other 5,000 reading it tonight and 50,000 who are going to read all this rubbish tomorrow and the next day and the next and the next, etc.

Anybody who reads this will know that this thread, along with countless others in JS, was meant purely in jest.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9092 on: December 24, 2015, 10:47:58 PM »
Taking 'natural' vitamins with unknown sources....
Or people who have a hard time breastfeeding, and won't stop because they don't want to become preg...
My point is, why isn't it the norm to be on bc? Why shouldn't you be on bc even when you don't need a 'break'? Just for the piece of mind...
I don't know about Chassideshe circles. But in Yeshiveshe circles, if you can't handle more children, the Rabbanim encourage BC. (But they are makpid that you should speak to them before you go on it, and not make the decision by yourself).

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Re: What's wrong with walking around naked?
« Reply #9093 on: December 24, 2015, 10:48:56 PM »
birth control is one thing and this thread is was too far for DDF,
and as long its mesh ok (we all understand.....) but normal DDFers like david smith?
Maybe the OP's gone off the deep end; or maybe he's trying to bring out a point. Maybe both. Sometimes the best way to answer a question is with a question. Oy, where's CM when we need him?
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What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9094 on: December 24, 2015, 10:50:19 PM »
Taking 'natural' vitamins with unknown sources....
Or people who have a hard time breastfeeding, and won't stop because they don't want to become preg...
My point is, why isn't it the norm to be on bc? Why shouldn't you be on bc even when you don't need a 'break'? Just for the piece of mind...

Many people prefer natural and non-hormonal choices for BC.

And what's the difference between needing a break and needing piece of mind?
« Last Edit: December 24, 2015, 10:54:55 PM by wayfe »
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Re: What's wrong with walking around naked?
« Reply #9095 on: December 24, 2015, 10:51:06 PM »
Actually this thread is the least chilul Hashem worthy thread of the night.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9096 on: December 24, 2015, 10:58:34 PM »
It's funny how the most selfish spoiled generation in history (I'm referring to the whole Western world) has the least children.
Yet people will argue that those that have a lot of children are selfish.
Just to clarify I was not saying people have more children for selfish reasons (though mordyk is making me rethink that) I was just saying the attitude and expectation that children are there to provide nachas is what bothers me.

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Re: What's wrong with walking around naked?
« Reply #9097 on: December 24, 2015, 10:58:59 PM »
+1 people are thinking they are cute, IMHO the mods should delete this thread

+1000

The other threads should be deleted as well. They're beyond ridiculous (and that's the least of their problems).
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9098 on: December 24, 2015, 10:59:27 PM »
I don't know about Chassideshe circles. But in Yeshiveshe circles, if you can't handle more children, the Rabbanim encourage BC. (But they are makpid that you should speak to them before you go on it, and not make the decision by yourself).
The chasideshe circles rabbanim will allow as well.
My question is if according to halacha your go to go.  You have a boy and a girl. Why do you need to ask?

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #9099 on: December 24, 2015, 11:00:19 PM »
Rav Schachter of YU (@CBC, it probably doesn't have the status of Torah for you so you could probably read it in the bathroom) wrote a long article on the topic a long time ago (mid' 80s). It is very interesting and discusses many of the main issues

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://download.yutorah.org/1982/1053/735664.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjS1Lu2jfbJAhXIGB4KHfynCfwQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNFKlDkxTei-cvuUUISfNX63dEkGow&sig2=r3OsyyBW1csQsKKskf_86A
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