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LMS - Last Man Standing.. Not FMS (First Man Standing) - This game is for night time only, not morning, afternoon, or evening.. NIGHT TIME ONLY!!

At night while most of the world is sleeping there are some members which are looking to socialize since they have no one else to speak to; they play a really exciting and fun game which basically every couple minutes you write a comment, the comments range from standing to sleeping, from young grasshoppers to old grasshoppers. it usually begins around 1:00 am EDT

RULES OF THE GAME:

1) Game starts at 1am Eastern, 12am Central, 11pm mountain, 10pm pacific... You get the point.
2) Anyone can call a roll call, just make a reply with "Roll Call". The roll call must be readable to the naked eye.
3) No more than one roll call every thirty minutes.
4) You have 30 minutes to respond to the roll call to stay active.
5) To respond to a roll call just post a reply with "Here" or "y y y"
6) If after one hour there are no more "Roll Calls" or "Heres", then the last person to post correctly either by calling a roll call or with a reply of "here" is declared winner of LMS.
7)You must have been awake for at least 12 hours before making or answering a RC.



OR IN SHORT:

When someone calls for a roll call. No more than one every 30 minutes and you have 30 minutes to respond "Here".


Poll

If Men Could Become Pregnant, Would You?

Yes, I love delivering babies!
Noooooo! I'm afraid....
Not sure. I'll ask my LOR

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8840 on: December 24, 2015, 04:09:19 PM »
Two issues.
A: Chiyuv pru urvu mideorayso is one boy and one girl. Miderabonon more is required.
B:  depending on forms of BC there could be problems with h'zl and niddah.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8841 on: December 24, 2015, 04:09:22 PM »
We need to outnumber the Muslims.

Jk
Interesting. I thought of that too.

That's why you see the settlers in Israel have a baby more often than they change socks.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8842 on: December 24, 2015, 04:09:30 PM »
Two issues.
A: Chiyuv pru urvu mideorayso is one boy and one girl. Miderabonon more is required.
B:  depending on forms of BC there could be problems with h'zl and niddah.
A. According to my understanding its more of a mitzva to have more after a boy and a girl not a chiyuv.
B. If it's a issue of hz'l why isn't pregnancy the same issue?

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8843 on: December 24, 2015, 04:09:51 PM »
What form of bc could possibly be a prob. With nidda?


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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8844 on: December 24, 2015, 04:10:02 PM »
Two issues.
A: Chiyuv pru urvu mideorayso is one boy and one girl. Miderabonon more is required.
B:  depending on forms of BC there could be problems with h'zl and niddah.
Excuse me?
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8845 on: December 24, 2015, 04:10:33 PM »


That's why you see the settlers in Israel have a baby more often than they change socks.
Lol

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8846 on: December 24, 2015, 04:11:02 PM »
where did i say that its assur al pi halacha? op wanted to know what the root problem is. i believe i answered his question.
I believe you didn't.
AYLOR is not an answer.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8847 on: December 24, 2015, 04:11:14 PM »
Lsheves yitzra haolem.

Forgetting any hashchusa issues, its mivatal an asay.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8848 on: December 24, 2015, 04:11:54 PM »
What fun would that be?
I guess you're not looking for a serious answer you're simply trying to be controversial. Now,  may I ask you a question? Is this question something that you're struggling with or you are simply concerned with other people's choices?

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8849 on: December 24, 2015, 04:12:03 PM »
A. According to my understanding its more of a mitzva to have more after a boy and a girl not a chiyuv.
B. If it's a issue of hz'l why isn't pregnancy the same issue?
and after menopause? and rest of month?
bc here youre actually doing a peula that it shouldnt work
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8850 on: December 24, 2015, 04:12:50 PM »
"היו לו בנים בילדותו, יהיו לו בנים בזקנותו,
שנאמר: בבוקר זרע זרעך, ולערב אל תנח ידיך,
כי אינך יודע איזה יכשר, הזה או זה,
ואם שניהם כאחד טובים (קהלת יא י)" (יבמות סב, ב) -

 כתבו התוספות שאם כל משפחה בישראל הייתה מסתפקת רק בבן ובת כבר "זרעו של אברהם אבינו כלה מאליו" מזמן (ב"ב ס:).


So it's not a joke.

That's not halacha. I don't believe you can prevent people being on birth control based on this.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8851 on: December 24, 2015, 04:12:59 PM »
A. According to my understanding its more of a mitzva to have more after a boy and a girl not a chiyuv.
B. If it's a issue of hz'l why isn't pregnancy the same issue?
A: there are many opinions. But even if its "only" a mitzva kiyumis, (not chiyuvis), its still called "problematic".
B: there are different types. I just said that there could potentially be issues with some forms. Not that anything that can't lead to pregnancy is h'zl.
 The main issue is A.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8852 on: December 24, 2015, 04:13:45 PM »
I believe you didn't.
AYLOR is not an answer.
interrupting the cycle of reproduction is circumventing a command to be fruitful
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8853 on: December 24, 2015, 04:14:06 PM »
Re Epstein: I don't think anyone here was actually concerned for themselves.

This is a personal issue and a LOR can answer for the individual.

Asking a Rabbi about Epstein may not get you an answer.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8854 on: December 24, 2015, 04:14:41 PM »
That's why you see the settlers in Israel have a baby more often than they change socks.

That's just a cheap shot from the Satmarer in you... What then, would be the reason for the hyper-breeding that takes place in Williamsburg, to outnumber the Belzers?

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8855 on: December 24, 2015, 04:14:58 PM »
you should read r' sholom arush's viewpoint on this topic. fascinating
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8856 on: December 24, 2015, 04:15:00 PM »
I guess you're not looking for a serious answer you're simply trying to be controversial. Now,  may I ask you a question? Is this question something that you're struggling with or you are simply concerned with other people's choices?
I'm not struggling with or concerned about anything.

I just want to understand it and have a serious discussion about about.

You know very well that I didn't mean fun literally. Don't try twisting my words.
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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8857 on: December 24, 2015, 04:15:39 PM »
A: there are many opinions. But even if its "only" a mitzva kiyumis, (not chiyuvis), its still called "problematic".
B: there are different types. I just said that there could potentially be issues with some forms. Not that anything that can't lead to pregnancy is h'zl.
 The main issue is A.
Also how would you have a issue with nidah if there is nothing seen?

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8858 on: December 24, 2015, 04:16:00 PM »
A. According to my understanding its more of a mitzva to have more after a boy and a girl not a chiyuv.
B. If it's a issue of hz'l why isn't pregnancy the same issue?
On B. You're not getting what he is saying. He didn't meant to say that because you can't have kids its H"zl. Because then pregnancy would be a problem. Rather, some forms of BC are definitely considered H'zl. Pills don't have this problem. And meshugener does not disagree that some forms of BC are a problem. He wants to know why the forms like pills that don't have h'zl problem is prohibited.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: What's The Problem With Birth Control?
« Reply #8859 on: December 24, 2015, 04:16:07 PM »
That's just a cheap shot from the Satmarer in you... What then, would be the reason for the hyper-breeding that takes place in Williamsburg, to outnumber the Belzers?
Lol, you got it right.

I didn't want to say it in public since the chassidim are a protected minority, but now that you said it...
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