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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10230 on: May 04, 2018, 04:16:25 PM »
hotels are easier, but the idea, tedious it is, is to talk with the mashgiach and figure out how they handle truma, which meat they use, are they indeed truly CY, veggies gush katif, and which other hechshers are acceptable for use at the establishment. Am I missing anything?
Why would hotels be easier than a restaurant?
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10231 on: May 04, 2018, 06:19:57 PM »
Forgot temidi for meat
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10232 on: May 04, 2018, 06:22:02 PM »
Why would hotels be easier than a restaurant?
in my limited experience, I found that usually the mashgiach is always on site, regardless of milk/meat. Restaurant, usually only for meat restaurants are they onsite. Also, a restaurant is usually a much more hectic environment for a mashgiach, whereas a hotel has limited buffet mealtimes and hence easier time having a convo with the mashgiach...

As well, due to the nature of the hotels buffet, it is much easier to find food you *can* eat, than a restaurant...
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10233 on: May 05, 2018, 03:50:08 PM »
Politics aside, can I trust the hechshers under Israel here?
https://kosherquest.org/kosher-symbols/
For sure a lot of them but i wouldnt say all

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10234 on: May 05, 2018, 09:47:42 PM »
Worth going to Bahai gardens? Any halachic issues?
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10235 on: May 05, 2018, 10:36:12 PM »
Worth going to Bahai gardens? Any halachic issues?
AFAIK, it's not an issue. Same as a mosque I believe. Definitely don't quote me on that though.
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Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10236 on: May 05, 2018, 11:49:32 PM »
Worth going to Bahai gardens? Any halachic issues?
def worth a visit if it fits youíre schedule and itís not too hot. A few tips:entrance to the main garden(insta worthy) is only via guided tours they run tours in a few languages including English,tours run on different times each day and end as early as 3 (personal experience of showing up and only let in to a little patch ) entrance is free iirc. About the building, me and my friends didnít enter as itís a shrine to a dead man. The whole Bahaíi culture is explained and is fascinating! our guide was an American,as all believers have to make a pilgrimage once in a lifetime to do work on the garden.they have a Congress where Bahaíi matters are discussed.
Definitely go itís not too long of a tour,maybe an hour or so,you start on top of the mountain and walk steps all the way down....
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10237 on: May 06, 2018, 12:10:50 AM »
def worth a visit if it fits youíre schedule and itís not too hot. A few tips:entrance to the main garden(insta worthy) is only via guided tours they run tours in a few languages including English,tours run on different times each day and end as early as 3 (personal experience of showing up and only let in to a little patch ) entrance is free iirc. About the building, me and my friends didnít enter as itís a shrine to a dead man. The whole Bahaíi culture is explained and is fascinating! our guide was an American,as all believers have to make a pilgrimage once in a lifetime to do work on the garden.they have a Congress where Bahaíi matters are discussed.
Definitely go itís not too long of a tour,maybe an hour or so,you start on top of the mountain and walk steps all the way down....
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https://www.ganbahai.org.il/en/tours/#currenttimetable

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10238 on: May 06, 2018, 02:11:42 AM »
Going to take my 5th trip to Israel in the past 11 years and still no clue which restaurant hashgochas are good and which are not. So much simpler in the US...
Is it really? There are many times more hechserim in the US then in Israel. There are roughly 10 standard ones in Israel.
Do you not have access to a single Rav in Israel that you trust and will listen to whatever he says?

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10239 on: May 06, 2018, 06:57:13 AM »
Is it really? There are many times more hechserim in the US then in Israel. There are roughly 10 standard ones in Israel.
Do you not have access to a single Rav in Israel that you trust and will listen to whatever he says?
Most hechsherim you run into on a daily basis here are on your run of the mill modern orthodox - "yeshivish" Jews list of things they eat.


Same can't be said for Israel.

And in Israel you have many more hechsherim that some people hold and their neighbor doesn't even though they may be from same type of community. It gets complicated real quickly.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10240 on: May 06, 2018, 07:11:10 AM »


Most hechsherim you run into on a daily basis here are on your run of the mill modern orthodox - "yeshivish" Jews list of things they eat.


Same can't be said for Israel.

And in Israel you have many more hechsherim that some people hold and their neighbor doesn't even though they may be from same type of community. It gets complicated real quickly.

What everyone does doesn't make something less complicated from a halachik point of view.  How do you know "input hasgacho of choice here" is any good? Do you know their shitos across the board? Do you know what they hold in regards to slight complications in bishul akum? Or what they rely on to kasher chocolate factories? Or  a full list of other hechserim they will rely on? Or what the standards of the masgiach they hire by the event is? Or the other million questions.
I imagine not, and you are relying on a holy and knowledgeable bearded man to relay accurate info which you lean on.
So why can't you have the same for hasgachos in Israel? Find a knowledgeable and trustworthy rav in Israel to ask all your questions to.
Don't point to crowd ignorance and tell me that's what makes it complicated.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10241 on: May 06, 2018, 07:32:50 AM »

What everyone does doesn't make something less complicated from a halachik point of view.  How do you know "input hasgacho of choice here" is any good? Do you know their shitos across the board? Do you know what they hold in regards to slight complications in bishul akum? Or what they rely on to kasher chocolate factories? Or  a full list of other hechserim they will rely on? Or what the standards of the masgiach they hire by the event is? Or the other million questions.
I imagine not, and you are relying on a holy and knowledgeable bearded man to relay accurate info which you lean on.
So why can't you have the same for hasgachos in Israel? Find a knowledgeable and trustworthy rav in Israel to ask all your questions to.
Don't point to crowd ignorance and tell me that's what makes it complicated.
Honestly, I think a lot of peoples Ravs here in the US aren't familiar 100% about all the hechsherim.

Meanwhile you seem to be getting 'defensive' about it.
 Why is it so crazy a thought that the ways of a certain place might make it harder to know which hechsherim you follow versus another?




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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10242 on: May 06, 2018, 09:31:56 AM »
Going to take my 5th trip to Israel in the past 11 years and still no clue which restaurant hashgochas are good and which are not. So much simpler in the US...
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10243 on: May 06, 2018, 10:29:22 AM »


Honestly, I think a lot of peoples Ravs here in the US aren't familiar 100% about all the hechsherim.


That would be a reason for it to seem less complicated.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #10244 on: May 06, 2018, 05:42:59 PM »
Is it really? There are many times more hechserim in the US then in Israel. There are roughly 10 standard ones in Israel.
Do you not have access to a single Rav in Israel that you trust and will listen to whatever he says?
Every city has their own rabanut mehadrin. Are they on a level of the OU in the US?
Beit Yosef?
I never spent time in Israel other than short vacations here and there, why would I have a Rov there?

Never have any issue when I go to Chicago, LA, Miami, Toronto, etc. The major hashgochas are all acceptable and life is simple.
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