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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #80 on: May 07, 2010, 11:34:23 AM »
I don't think getting Political is what I'm looking to do, but suffice it to say that, yes, I'm pretty "briskish"(my alma matter) and that shearis I didn't eat for valid (imho) kashrus concerns.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #81 on: May 07, 2010, 11:37:21 AM »
I don't think getting Political is what I'm looking to do, but suffice it to say that, yes, I'm pretty "briskish"(my alma matter) and that shearis I didn't eat for valid (imho) kashrus concerns.

yes, I get and agree to you, and somehow your username didnt make me think you were in a monastery or so, however Landau is probably the best hechsher around.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #82 on: May 07, 2010, 03:17:30 PM »
Most lubavitchers wouldnt eat sheairis... Some wouldnt eat belz.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2010, 02:52:40 PM »
the only reason someone wouldnt eat landau is purely political, as far as hashgachos go its one of the best. the reason why someone wouldnt eat shearis is because in the past they had some issues although they might have righted the ship. the reason why someone wouldnt eat belz, however, is because its not a good hashgacha.
if yehivaman would be a brisker, he certainly would not eat rubin.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2010, 04:41:51 PM »
the only reason someone wouldnt eat landau is purely political, as far as hashgachos go its one of the best. the reason why someone wouldnt eat shearis is because in the past they had some issues although they might have righted the ship. the reason why someone wouldnt eat belz, however, is because its not a good hashgacha.
if yehivaman would be a brisker, he certainly would not eat rubin.

I wouldn't say that "Belz is not a good hashgacha". Most people outside of Brisker circles would probably disagree

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2010, 05:34:58 PM »
personally, what most people agree to or not, is not really relevant to me. if you go with that approach, apparently decks in tiveria is good too, although last i checked they dont even have a hashgacha. id like to know what people in kashrus think

on a side note, i got your message. where can i bring the book?
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2010, 05:43:32 PM »
To cut a long story short: for people like me, who are basically neutral, in the sense that I'm not chassidish, litvish, etc, and look strictly at the feedback from mashgichim, history, and so on, and the political aspect has no value for me, I conclude the following:badats, rubin, landau, and yes belz too, are good hechsherim (allthough politics will want to drag down belz and landau), and she'eris is not a very good hechsher (although politics want you to believe it is; they had major "strops" in the past).
For a hechsher to function well you need lots of syata dishmaya, so hechsherim ike landau, where they removed once a hechsher of a butcher that used fool language, promotes siyata dishmaya, however, she'eris who was built to try to eradicate other hechsherim, has obviously less syata dishmaya and its only natural that so many mishaps happened there.
As a result, I would by far prefer rabanut yerusholayim mehadrin over she'eris.

For those who are going to say:"... but the gedeeylim signed for she'eris", I have the following to say:lots of things that the gedoylim sign (or supposedly approve off) is basicly the gaboims views imposed on the godol.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #87 on: May 08, 2010, 05:49:12 PM »
super, instead of cutting the story short, youre unfortunately distorting it. belz was started because the chassidus wanted to get in on the game and unfortunately dont know the fine details of kashrus and what goes in to a hasgacha. as far as shearis i dont care how it started, the bottom line is that apparently today the food they certify is kosher and thats all i care about. rabbanut mehadrin used to be a fine hashgacha until a mizrachi guy took over the helm and instituted numerous kulos which for the most part made the hashgacga irrelevant today

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #88 on: May 08, 2010, 10:11:38 PM »
See, Israeli hashgocha is totally confusing for Americans!!!!!
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2010, 01:40:46 AM »
Belz is a huge chassidus, and probably one of the finest today. Why shouldn't they have a hechser of themselves. They had no idea how to do it seems a bit far fetched, as there are halochos and they are there for everyone.

She'eris was was made to 'destroy' the others, and that's why so many 'mistakes' happened there.

About rabanut mehadrin, I didn't know about the change of events, and will check it out. Anyone on this forum knows more about it?

To Dan: usa aren't so easy. When I asked an american if OU meat was ok, he answered me, depend where it comes from...
Cholov akum not being an issue by a lot of people is easier indeed, but not for non-us people, as they mosty don't go easy about it.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #90 on: May 09, 2010, 01:50:08 AM »
the point youre missing is that there is a lot more going into hashgacha than just knowing how to pasken a halacha

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #91 on: May 09, 2010, 01:52:27 AM »
I read the last few posts for the first time, I thought I was on Vos Iz Neis.com !! ;)

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #92 on: May 09, 2010, 03:43:42 AM »
Just tried Marvad Haksamim (Magic Carpet) last week. In my five years living here I must say it was probably my best dining out experience. The food was excellent (try the red kube soup and mag'dara), service was attentive and quick (the five of us were out in just over an hour) and the prices reasonable (600 shek including tip and we were stuffed). It's on Emek Refaim, the hechsher is Rav Machpud (one of the better ones around) and if you go to www.rest.co.il/marvad you can see some of their food along with their menu, and a coupon for a free desert. It doesn't match the ambiance of Keyara, but overall it wins hands down.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #93 on: May 09, 2010, 04:21:05 AM »
There is knowing the halocho, being a yirai shomayim, and not involving politics or finances is what counts.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #94 on: May 09, 2010, 08:09:58 AM »
SuperFlyer, that is exactly what I meant when I said that I don't want to get political, because your post is really devoid of real facts & just saying what you want to be true & presenting it as fact. Posters should not be the ones deciding who has "siyata dishmaya" or not. The beef with belz is an old one, that they opened up they're hechsher without any thought to the practical aspects of how a hechsher runs in the 21st century. I won't even go into your sheairis "naarishkeitin".

& to the guy who called me out on my brisker credentials for eating R Rubin? I dare you to ask the next 10 people who learn/learnt in brisk. you will see.
i wish i knew what i was doing...

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #95 on: May 09, 2010, 08:34:09 AM »
I saw brisk comments, but didn't know whether true. But as you agree yourself to it, the discussion ends here, as being a brisker itself makes you(r opinion) biased.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #96 on: May 09, 2010, 08:42:03 AM »
To add to your wifes income (if married) you might want to consider writing a book. I even thought already of a title.

Acting in a Brisk manner.
Balancing between brisk and the internet.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #97 on: May 09, 2010, 09:13:59 AM »
& to the guy who called me out on my brisker credentials for eating R Rubin? I dare you to ask the next 10 people who learn/learnt in brisk. you will see.
that would be me, and obviously there is a difference between someone who learned in brisk and someone who is as you say "pretty briskish". someone who is "briskish" i.e. a brisker or someone that goes in that derech hachaim wouldnt get close to rubin with a ten foot pole. While before i thought you probably did learn in brisk, i now have my doubts, if you couldnt make that distinction.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #98 on: May 09, 2010, 09:44:14 AM »
pretty good we have a very chosheva oilam on this site, they come from "the most prestigios yeshivos" 

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #99 on: May 09, 2010, 10:01:06 AM »
Ponovez too......