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Begin Museum- outside the Old City
Caliber 3- Shooting Range in Gush Etzion
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Kotel Tunnel Tours/Old City Jewish and/or Muslim Quarter Tours (PM satturn if you want a private tour)
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City of David (Ir David)-Amazing-you must take a tour to fully understand the site.
Segway tour-interesting way to waste a few hrs-NOT an absolute must do
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Blind or Deaf Museum in Cholon- Blind, amazing. Deaf, good. Prior reservation needed.
Hagana Museum in Tel Aviv--15NIS per adult; students free; a bit disjointed and kind of fake acting in the videos, but mostly very interesting and educational.
Bullet Factory in Rechovot
Mini Israel- Love it or hate it

North

https://www.k-k.co.il/?lang=en
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Tel Dan nature reserve (similiar to Banias Waterfall -slightly easier & toddler friendly)
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Nimrod's Fortress in the Golan
Kayaking down the Jordan River
Mount Hermon Ski Lift
Mount Bental Overlook/Bunkers
Golan Heights Winery
Yehudiya Nature Reserve Hiking
https://www.de-karina.co.il/product/%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%9A/
http://www.pri-beresheet.co.il/%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%96_%D7%9E%D7%91%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D


South

Nachal Dragot (aka Darja)- an intense hike near the Dead Sea
Sunrise tour of Masada, Ein Gedi, and Dead Sea aprx $70



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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1200 on: November 22, 2012, 11:09:42 AM »
I can add a few reviews now.

Sheyan: Egg roll was decent. Entrecote skewers were amazing, I would highly recommend. Teriyaki chicken was really good. Chocolate peanut butter mousse dessert was pretty good, not too peanut buttery. Chinese Wall drink had no discernible alcohol in it. Service was excellent, food came really quick. Prices were decent and the place has nice decor. Look for Moishebatchy when you're there, he's the guy cutting the line. Luckily we were advised to place a reservation, as the place was packed. Roughly 13% tip is included in your bill.

Rimon Bistro What happened to this place? I always loved it in the past, now it was a massive disappointment. Philly steak sandwich had barely any meat in it, which might be a good thing as the little meat that was in there was severely undercooked. Since the last time I was there they also cut down tremendously on the amount of fries you get. The burger was just a burger, you'll find the same or better anywhere decent in America. I also ordered chicken nuggets to go, got back to my hotel and found wings instead of nuggets.  Huge thumbs down.

Sam Bagels Ate at the one on Paran several times. Decent food but insanely overpriced (5 bucks for a cream cheese bagel, $2 for a cookie). If you just want eggs, go down the block to...

Waffle Bar I wish someone had told me this before we ordered - ORDER ONE MAIN DISH TO SHARE! I got the Oreo belgian waffle, wife got the dulce de leche crepe, and both were really really good, but half of each dish went in to the garbage. (Not really a food you can take to go.) Food is not cheap, but on the bright side, they make scrambled eggs for just 3 shekel per egg. The presentation of the food is beautiful (I have pictures, will try to post later). Service is good and tip is not included in your bill.

I'll write more later.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1201 on: November 22, 2012, 12:19:06 PM »
Was all at the DO. You missed it

and l'maaseh we paskened that its beyond a PITA and not so k'dai anymore....

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1202 on: November 22, 2012, 12:44:16 PM »
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1203 on: November 22, 2012, 12:47:58 PM »
Chinese Wall drink had no discernible alcohol in it.

Happens sometimes. You're supposed to ask them to fix it.

Look for Moishebatchy when you're there, he's the guy cutting the line.

ROFLMAO!!! ;D

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1204 on: November 22, 2012, 12:50:25 PM »
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?

Ma'adanei Zahav on Rechov Malachi, owned by my best friend's father-in-law, has an amazing cholent. So good, in fact, that you'd never guess it's actually pareve. :o

Okay, maybe I'm a little biased, but it is good. :)

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1205 on: November 22, 2012, 12:50:33 PM »
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?

Im sick but i put one up this afternoon or bring me some moishala's. or yoilys now :-)
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1206 on: November 22, 2012, 12:51:21 PM »
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?

was listening to menachem tokers radio show today and he was talking about cholent for 2 hours straight...he declared today national cholent day...was giving out free cholent...made me so hungry

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1207 on: November 22, 2012, 12:51:53 PM »
Roughly 13% tip is included in your bill.

Imteresting they dont tell you that.  Usually in Israel tip not included.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1208 on: November 22, 2012, 12:53:38 PM »
Imteresting they dont tell you that.  Usually in Israel tip not included.

These days, it does say it on the bottom of the receipt.

Oh, and BTW, great report Shmelly!

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1209 on: November 22, 2012, 01:04:35 PM »
Imteresting they dont tell you that.  Usually in Israel tip not included.
not always a meilah....

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1210 on: November 22, 2012, 01:10:11 PM »
not always a meilah....
I wasnt saying it was.  Just saying I was there a few nights ago and gave a tip...on top of their 13% because I thought tip wasn't included.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1211 on: November 22, 2012, 02:09:29 PM »
Ma'adanei Zahav on Rechov Malachi, owned by my best friend's father-in-law, has an amazing cholent. So good, in fact, that you'd never guess it's actually pareve. :o

Okay, maybe I'm a little biased, but it is good. :)
Sorry, Pareve cholent is a no go.
Im sick but i put one up this afternoon or bring me some moishala's. or yoilys now :-)
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1212 on: November 22, 2012, 02:18:29 PM »
Believe me I would, but I don't have a car.
I thought you have good deals :-)

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1213 on: November 22, 2012, 02:19:04 PM »
Believe me I would, but I don't have a car.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1214 on: November 22, 2012, 02:20:16 PM »
restaurant discussion is officially dead.   let's have it...

No CPR, eh? ;)

Okay, fine, here goes...

take a look at this thread   http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2861.msg28664#msg28664

basically after the 11th rental you're walking away with 3,000 points each 2 day rental.  if you value lh at about 1.7/1.8 a point, then you're getting $54 back on each 2 day rental.  that should pretty much cover the cost of a two day rental on a small car.   

Back in the day (as recently as a few weeks ago), one could get a class A or B car on a qualifying rate code (not all rate codes give miles) for $23-$25 per day. That meant every two days was $46-$50 (if you weren't paying tax), and was earning roughly $48 worth of miles (M&M used to be worth less than it is now), making the car more or less free. But one out of every three rentals had to be three days (since the week has seven days, which is not divisible by two), which meant paying $69-$75, while getting the same $48 of miles. Nu, a little sacrifice for Shabbos Koidesh. :)

Now, life is a bit more difficult. The rate codes that earn miles have all been updated to a three day minimum at $26 per day, and if you only take it for two days, you are charged $33 per day. Thus, a two day rental is $66, and a three day rental is $78. But... If you book specifically through NoachCar, you get a zikuy Shabbat of $14, bringing down the price of a Thursday-Sunday rental (3 days) to $64. (Noach is the only agent authorized to offer zikuy Shabbat for the "American" rate codes.)

Also, M&M has gone up slightly - with the right connections, you can find a buyer whereby the points will be worth $54, or $162 per week (three rentals).

So... let's do the math:

3 rentals are $66 + $66 + $64 = $194
Points are worth = $162
total cost per week after all is said and done: $32

Not to shabby, eh? A car for four-and-a-half bucks per day... ;D

Caveat: you want the points to credit automatically, since you don't want human eyes prying into your account unnecessarily. Blessings are only found in that which is hidden from the eye. :)

That being the case, try to avoid any unnecessary surcharges (like renting accessories on the same contract) or refunds (like demanding a few bucks back because you got the car with some gas missing), because touching the contract too much may cause your points to not credit automatically. Then you will have to make the difficult choice between forgoing the points for that rental altogether, or fighting for them and risking getting your account audited (kinda like how we try to avoid F/R triggers). Additionally, dealer has warned me that if the price drops below what you are supposed to pay for two days, you won't get any miles at all; so avoid, for example, taking a zikuy Shabbat on a contract of only two days. Better make the weekend rentals the three-day ones.

there are a couple things that need to be worked out though.    if you book it using the awd for the promo it's a higher rate.  supposedly though it's easy to book on a diff awd and then change it when you get into the store.  not sure if travel agent rate would work the same.     

This is the easy part: put the AWD on your Wizard, then have an agent (Noach, Yaari, Sruly Feig etc.) make the reservation for you. Make sure to give your Wizard number, and make sure to specify you want the HC or HZ rate code. Ta da! The AWD will be on your contract, and you will get the prices I mentioned above. :)

also, i don't think it would be worth it for most people if you need to spend an hour every 2 days returning the car and getting a new one, it's a major pita.   if you could work out a way with them to just stop by and fill out new papers or something, without actually returning the car it makes it much more feasible.     

True... let's just say, it helps to have friends in high places. :D

and of course you need to change the awd on each 2 day rental.

No, you don't... see above. :)

the other thing is the hold on your cc.  it would be very annoying if they put a new $1k hold on your cc for each rental...

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They can re-use the same hold again and again until it expires. I'm not sure if they do it automatically or if you have to ask, but it's definitely doable.

it usually takes about 10 days to come off.  but that's not such a big deal. 

Here's a little pro tip for anyone renting from Avis (not just people doing this promotion): once you return the car, you can ask the agent to manually cancel the hold, on the spot, instead of waiting for it to expire on its own.

i believe if you maxed it out from here until the end of the year (promo is through dec 31), you could do about 21 rentals, which is about 59k points (first 11 rentals earn less).      not the best, but still a great deal.

Here's where it gets a little sticky. Lufthansa's T&C's do not allow back-to-back rentals. This is not automatically enforced by the computer, but if they audit your account for whatever reason, you're screwed - they can count the entire period as one giant rental, and claw back all but 3,000 of the miles. In fact, someone lost close to half a million miles that way. :'(

The way around this is to make two accounts, and alternate between them, so that no account has back-to-back rentals. Even then they may detect duplicate accounts, so for best results, you make one account in your name and one account in your wife's name.

However... each account needs ten rentals before it starts earning the full bonus. That sets the "buy-in price" at twenty rentals - pretty steep for someone starting this late in the year.

also they've been renewing this every year for the last few years so you could always just wait for january and start then with a full year to do it.

Let's hope they do renew it. I've got my fingers Magen-David'ed... :)

One final note, that may not be obvious to some: Avis Israel is not losing anything because of the miles you are getting. Or even if the corporation as a whole is, the specific branch you rent from is not.

Why am I mentioning this? Because it is worth noting that as far as the branch is concerned, you are a gold mine. You are a steady customer binging them the better part of $1k in revenue per month. Couple that with being a friendly guy, and they will treat you like royalty. I've had cases where I booked an A and drove out in an F, or where I returned a car six hours late and the manager authorized them to override the computer and not charge me an extra day. I've rented minivans for half the price, and had them hold specific cars for me even when other paying customers wanted them.

Remember, you are not some schnorrer who has to feel self-conscious that you are "taking them for a ride" because of all the points you are getting. The employees all know exactly what I'm doing, and not only don't they have a problem with it, they actually admire me for it. And when I'm one of their best customers... what's not to like? ;D
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