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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1400 on: December 13, 2012, 07:52:52 PM »
Nothing to do with news, its the Kashrus scene -stuff not reported in the "news".
Anyways, many many frume yidden don't eat canned tuna (recently I learned that the canned salmon is just as problematic) that is certified only by the OU and are not Bishul Yisroel (famous brands like starkist & chicken of the sea).  Aside for the fact that they don't require tuna to be Bishul Yisroel, there are much serious problems. 
See some more info here, and here.

Ah, that explains it: I never even liked Starkist; believe it or not, I actually prefer the heimishe brands (like Dagim). So I never came across this issue.

But what does that have to do with dolphins?

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1401 on: December 13, 2012, 07:53:13 PM »
Nothing to do with news, its the Kashrus scene -stuff not reported in the "news".
Anyways, many many frume yidden don't eat canned tuna (recently I learned that the canned salmon is just as problematic) that is certified only by the OU and are not Bishul Yisroel (famous brands like starkist & chicken of the sea).  Aside for the fact that they don't require tuna to be Bishul Yisroel, there are much serious problems. 
See some more info here, and here.
Hechsherim like the Star-k, the OK, and the Eida all require a mshgiach temidi, something which OU could care less for.

Now, I am not saying that the OU is possul, this all started because I was trying to defend the OU, and to point out that they have their own share of problems I got into this...  Unfortunately, I trust the OU a lot more than many other hechsherim out there, I'm just cognizant of the fact that the OU has their own stash of kullos etc.. Some of them quite serious.  However they are expert in their fields where others are clueless.  Enough said.

ahhh right after the chalav was the tuna/fish issue ...boy did i love the summer zman! :-) great stuff!!
random talking about tuna can - the chozon ish ZTL holds that a tuna can needs to be toiveled....the second you buy it, since its b'etztem a kli - he holds once you own a kli the chiyuv starts right away
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1402 on: December 13, 2012, 07:53:46 PM »
Everyone knows the Eidah is not such a good hechsher.

For one thing, they don't give Maaser Oni to the poor, or Maaser Rishon to a Levi (as discussed elsewhere).
Was this supposed to be LOL?!
However, I seem to remember they are the only organization that doesn't rely on OU. I might be wrong though
From what I've heard? Absolutely bogus, and not physically possible, as the OU control (i.e. certify) the most flavors/preservatives etc in China and the far east... It would be impossible FWIH to live w/o the OU, for such a large hechsher as the Eida.
If you hear otherwise, please correct my misinformation, TIA.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1403 on: December 13, 2012, 07:54:07 PM »
kiddush this shabb in my apt  ill tell it over, lets just say if u are makpid on chalav companies u should be lactose free here in israel!!

You're assuming that I'm coming... what makes you think you're worthy of my presence? :P

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1404 on: December 13, 2012, 07:56:12 PM »
You're assuming that I'm coming... what makes you think you're worthy of my presence? :P
im not assuming if u wanna hear the raid on how most of milk in IL today is an issue then  come be my guest; but on the contrary what makes u think ill even tell u...
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1405 on: December 13, 2012, 07:59:17 PM »
im not assuming if u wanna hear the raid on how most of milk in IL today is an issue then  come be my guest; but on the contrary what makes u think ill even tell u...

Ummmmm... this, maybe?

kiddush this shabb in my apt  ill tell it over, lets just say if u are makpid on chalav companies u should be lactose free here in israel!!

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1406 on: December 13, 2012, 08:00:36 PM »
Ummmmm... this, maybe?
lol...meaning u bring u presence here, i aint comin to u babes :-)

anywyas bak to real stuff

burgers bar: ramat eshkol/sanhedria report:
good food disaster of service!
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1407 on: December 13, 2012, 08:05:10 PM »
What did you learn?
Serious issues for those who rely on Reb Moshe's hetter vis-a-vis Chalav akum.
IINM he (rots5) is probably referring to the issue of sirchos in the cows because of injections, which would in short possibly make the cows treifos. 
For those of you in E"Y, here's some homework, if you rely on Rubin (all Strauss dairy products.. etc..), find out his policy regarding the dairy products he certifies, vis-a-vis the sirchos and cholov yisroel :-X
But what does that have to do with dolphins?
Again:

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1408 on: December 13, 2012, 08:07:02 PM »
burgers bar: ramat eshkol/sanhedria report:

FTFY. Not even close to being in RE.

good food disaster of service!

+1

Their Entrecote Burger is quite delicious. But service can be sloooooooooow...

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1409 on: December 13, 2012, 08:26:29 PM »

For one thing, they don't give Maaser Oni to the poor, or Maaser Rishon to a Levi (as discussed elsewhere).

there you go again...

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1410 on: December 13, 2012, 08:43:26 PM »
Absolutely bogus, and not physically possible, as the OU control (i.e. certify) the most flavors/preservatives etc in China and the far east... It would be impossible FWIH to live w/o the OU, for such a large hechsher as the Eida.
If you hear otherwise, please correct my misinformation, TIA.
+1 it isn't really possible for any hechsher in the world not to rely on the OU unless they're giving a hasgacha on fruits and vegetables, and maybe some bread from locally grown wheat.
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1411 on: December 13, 2012, 08:44:34 PM »
+1 it isn't really possible for any hechsher in the world not to rely on the OU unless they're giving a hasgacha on fruits and vegetables, and maybe some bread from locally grown wheat.
+1  Couldn't say it better.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1412 on: December 13, 2012, 09:33:40 PM »
there you go again...
I heard it personally from R Efrati, who told me he brought it up w R Elyashiv.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1413 on: December 13, 2012, 09:35:23 PM »
I heard it personally from R Efrati, who told me he brought it up w R Elyashiv.


yup, u mentioned that, but you also mentioned r' elyashivs reply

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1414 on: December 13, 2012, 09:42:39 PM »
yup, u mentioned that, but you also mentioned r' elyashivs reply
That its not worth making a fight with them. But it doesn't make them any better of a hechesher

R.e. The OU, this stuff doesn't interest me so much, but Ill inquire
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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1415 on: December 13, 2012, 09:57:23 PM »
And אני הקטן חושב, that funding radical violent zealots are a lot worse than all that.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1416 on: December 14, 2012, 04:40:21 AM »
A separate kashrus thread is really needed.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1417 on: December 14, 2012, 05:00:56 AM »
A separate kashrus thread is really needed.

True dat...

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1418 on: December 14, 2012, 05:55:30 AM »
I'm at Luciana in Mamilla and IMO their breakfast buffet is better than Rimon.

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Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
« Reply #1419 on: December 14, 2012, 06:19:14 AM »
And אני הקטן חושב, that funding radical violent zealots are a lot worse than all that.
fail, but youre absolutely right about "אני הקטן"