Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability

[ilherman]

Yes I did. No luck there.

[ilherman]

I've seen awards being exchanged lets say from 80k to 70k (from partner award to UA metal) and the receipt got updates with new tkt number but still said 80k.

BTW, I've had success lately doing plan B via an economy standard award. Shesh.

[D93]

I've seen awards being exchanged lets say from 80k to 70k (from partner award to UA metal) and the receipt got updates with new tkt number but still said 80k.

BTW, I've had success lately doing plan B via an economy standard award. Shesh.

But if it doesn't clear, you're stuck paying for a standard economy award.

[efflpetzel]

who do I call regarding getting my miles back because of a failed Plan B, regular callback?

[Yehoshua]

who do I call regarding a failed Plan B, regular callback?

Yup

[yitzyul]

Whats the odds of getting a plan b when there are only 4 seats available (on the seat map) ewr to tlv?
Any options for the way back when seat map showing 15 seats but no saver award available?

[Yehoshua]

Whats the odds of getting a plan b when there are only 4 seats available (on the seat map) ewr to tlv?
Any options for the way back when seat map showing 15 seats but no saver award available?

Depends on how far out. Things change and more seats may open up.

[D93]

Whats the odds of getting a plan b when there are only 4 seats available (on the seat map) ewr to tlv?
Any options for the way back when seat map showing 15 seats but no saver award available?

Seat map doesn't mean much. How many seats are available for sale when you look on expert mode?

[yitzyul]

Seat map doesn't mean much. How many seats are available for sale when you look on expert mode?

Not good. Only 2.

[Yehoshua]

Not good. Only 2.

When's the flight?

[yitzyul]

When's the flight?

Motzay Shabbos.  Im an idiot because in the middle of last week they had 9 gpu's available and I didn't purchase a seat because nothing for the way back. Now nothing for either way…lol

[Yehoshua]

Motzay Shabbos.  Im an idiot because in the middle of last week they had 9 gpu's available and I didn't purchase a seat because nothing for the way back. Now nothing for either way…lol

A lot can change over the course of the week.

[ilherman]

Whats the odds of getting a plan b when there are only 4 seats available (on the seat map) ewr to tlv?
Any options for the way back when seat map showing 15 seats but no saver award available?

Seat map as D93 said doesn't mean much but it does give you hope. Meaning, 2 seats are for sure available as you can see on expert mode but the other 2 seats may be on hold by a TA who may end up not booking it. If you say that there was R class available though it is more likely that someone's upgrade cleared and he just didn't select a seat yet. In any event Motzei Shabbos flight is not likely to change much... Its a flight that people book a lot.

[Joe4007]

Is I class and R class requested essentially the same thing?

[ilherman]

No. For Plan B you need I class. R class ain't going to help you.

[Joe4007]

No. For Plan B you need I class. R class ain't going to help you.

Can you please elaborate on the difference?

[Yehoshua]

No. For Plan B you need I class. R class ain't going to help you.

Although R class usually shows up within 24 hours of the flight if you don't automatically get booked in J.

[ilherman]

Although R class usually shows up within 24 hours of the flight if you don't automatically get booked in J.

Yah, for some reason. But even R class becomes available you won't be able to get the tkt reissued unless there is I available as well. Only the airport can clear you in R T-24 (and they can clear you even R is not available) but they won't usually do it until after check-in time has closed and there are still seats available.

Bekutzir, for Plan B to work in advance you need I class available. In the airport as long there is a seat available and you're on the waitlist you'll get it no need for R class

SO R class is irrelevant.

[Yehoshua]

Yah, for some reason. But even R class becomes available you won't be able to get the tkt reissued unless there is I available as well. Only the airport can clear you in R T-24 (and they can clear you even R is not available) but they won't usually do it until after check-in time has closed and there are still seats available.

Bekutzir, for Plan B to work in advance you need I class available. In the airport as long there is a seat available and you're on the waitlist you'll get it no need for R class

SO R class is irrelevant.

True, I was just commenting on when R class requested comes up.

[ilherman]

Can you please elaborate on the difference?

I = Saver award bucket. R = Upgrade space bucket.

In a plan B the R bucket is as relevant as the J/C/D/Z/P bucket. It has nothing to do with you and whoever is waitlisted with a GPU will clear before you. All you need is saver business award.