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"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"


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Author Topic: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability  (Read 512665 times)

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2100 on: July 15, 2016, 04:50:35 PM »
Highly unlikely.
Is it so unlikely for a no show to happen? And that there  are some unticketed reservations there?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2101 on: July 15, 2016, 04:54:43 PM »
A. Is it so unlikely for a no show to happen?
B. And that there  are some unticketed reservations there?
A. This isn't a business destination, it's a leisure destination.
B. This isn't TLV.
C. Didn't say impossible, just don't count on it. I wouldn't suggested alternative flights, but my suggestions until now haven't been taken into account (Andaz, fly IAD-HNL for lie-flats, Tabis, etc), so it seems rather pointless.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2102 on: July 15, 2016, 06:46:27 PM »
I see the flight im booked on with Plan B is completely full, is there a chance it will still clear? does it usually?
FWIW, my flight was completely full but there was a no-show.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2103 on: July 16, 2016, 09:53:20 PM »


I wouldn't suggested alternative flights, but my suggestions until now haven't been taken into account (Andaz, fly IAD-HNL for lie-flats, Tabis, etc), so it seems rather pointless.
I really did appreciate the other suggestions and most def gave them thought and spoke them over with my wife. None of them were realistic for me at the time other than the Andaz. I am very open to alternative flights.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2104 on: July 24, 2016, 06:00:00 PM »
Plan B failed on my HNL-EWR flight, flight was sold out. First time in my life on a flight that long not in a premium cabin. Had an E+ seat and wasn't as bad as I expected it to be.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2105 on: July 24, 2016, 06:01:33 PM »
A sold out flight isn't a plan b failure, it's a pax failure.

Plan B failure is when you fail to get waitlisted despite talking to several agents and showing them where to find the protocol.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2106 on: July 24, 2016, 06:02:40 PM »
Plan B failed on my HNL-EWR flight. First time in my life on a flight that long not in a premium cabin. Had an E+ seat and wasn't as bad as I expected it to be.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2107 on: July 24, 2016, 06:04:00 PM »
A sold out flight isn't a plan b failure, it's a pax failure.

Plan B failure is when you fail to get waitlisted despite talking to several agents and showing them where to find the protocol.
I couldn't think of another way to say it. I also dont think its a pax failure, assuming I didnt want to deal with more unethical methods.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2108 on: July 24, 2016, 06:04:46 PM »
Oh god. Were you born with miles??
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2109 on: July 24, 2016, 06:11:07 PM »
Doesn't need to be unethical to find alternate flights that aren't sold out.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2110 on: July 24, 2016, 06:12:16 PM »
Doesn't need to be unethical to find alternate flights that aren't sold out.
No reasonable flights with genuine J cabins existed.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2111 on: July 24, 2016, 06:20:13 PM »
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2112 on: July 24, 2016, 06:21:03 PM »

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2113 on: July 24, 2016, 06:22:26 PM »
Listen if you consider EWR-IAD-HNL unreasonable then everything will be unreasonable.
But most reasonable people would disagree.

In 5 HI trips since I got married I've yet to fly anything but CO/UA long-haul J or F
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2114 on: July 24, 2016, 06:26:38 PM »
Listen if you consider EWR-IAD-HNL unreasonable then everything will be unreasonable.
But most reasonable people would disagree.

In 5 HI trips since I got married I've yet to fly anything but CO/UA long-haul J or F
That was a different scenario. The horrific timing (if the shorter leg even opened up) and extra travel time wasn't worth it considering I had my miles transferred to HA already.

Find me a route from OGG-NYC leaving on Thursday before skiya and arriving with a reasonable time before shabbos to account for minimal delays and transit to Brooklyn.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2115 on: July 24, 2016, 06:41:27 PM »
Opening up EWR-IAD would not have been difficult as I said.

OGG-HNL-IAD-NYC, OGG-DEN-NYC, among many others.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2116 on: July 24, 2016, 07:14:29 PM »




OGG-HNL-IAD-NYC, OGG-DEN-NYC, among many others.
The former wasn't available and the latter leaves after sunset. And there aren't many others.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2117 on: July 24, 2016, 07:16:03 PM »


Opening up EWR-IAD would not have been difficult as I said.

either way I wasn't about to sacrifice a good night sleep in my comfy bed for a decent rest in a lie-flat seat.


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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2118 on: July 29, 2016, 11:19:24 AM »
Possible to waitlist after i've booked the XN ticket or does it need to be done simultaneously w/ booking?
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2119 on: July 31, 2016, 06:52:26 AM »
Can be done after you booked.