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http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx
Click on "United air travel award rules:"
"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"


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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #270 on: December 18, 2013, 08:36:09 PM »
I booked an award following the instructions in Dan's post, its been over an hour and a half and my account has not been debited any miles and it has not been ticketed, although my credit card shows a pending charge (and I was charged the $25 booking fee even though the agent said I would not be charged).
Attached is a screenshot of what the reservation now says. How long should I wait before I call back? It also only says waitlisted for I even though I am a United cardmember and so I should get IN, although that may be fixed once it tickets.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #271 on: December 18, 2013, 08:48:15 PM »
FTR, I was just reading through the United Award ticket rules, and it seems to clearly spell out that you can do this type of wait list ticket. (I.E. if you point any agent to United's webpage they should help you with it).

Here is the text from the site:

You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx (you need to expand the rules at the bottom of the page)

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #272 on: December 18, 2013, 10:47:28 PM »
I booked an award following the instructions in Dan's post, its been over an hour and a half and my account has not been debited any miles and it has not been ticketed, although my credit card shows a pending charge (and I was charged the $25 booking fee even though the agent said I would not be charged).
Attached is a screenshot of what the reservation now says. How long should I wait before I call back? It also only says waitlisted for I even though I am a United cardmember and so I should get IN, although that may be fixed once it tickets.
Looks correct to me.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #273 on: December 18, 2013, 10:49:23 PM »
Looks correct to me.
it is not ticketed yet

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #274 on: December 18, 2013, 10:50:11 PM »
it is not ticketed yet
Weird. Not sure why.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #275 on: December 18, 2013, 10:57:31 PM »
so recently tried this on a standard econ award to Saver Business (15K less) showed wait-listed as class I and 24 hours before fell off, when I got to airport I told the agent where to look he asked his manager who in turn asked her manager. he came over and smiled and said "you are saying the right words in the wrong context" ?? I tried arguing but as most Israelis he couldn't give a &%$* I walked away before making any problems for myself.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #276 on: December 19, 2013, 08:14:53 AM »
FTR, I was just reading through the United Award ticket rules, and it seems to clearly spell out that you can do this type of wait list ticket. (I.E. if you point any agent to United's webpage they should help you with it).

Here is the text from the site:

You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx (you need to expand the rules at the bottom of the page)
It finally ticketed at 3 am, but only debited 80k from my account, even though originally it said 120k. It still says "I class requested". Do I need to cancel and start over?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #277 on: December 19, 2013, 08:41:15 AM »
Probably
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #278 on: December 19, 2013, 08:44:04 AM »
Probably
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #279 on: December 19, 2013, 09:06:31 AM »
Any way to expedite the redeposit of the miles?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #280 on: December 19, 2013, 09:14:13 AM »
If you go through the 5 step process online its instant.
Have to keep clicking the right buttons though.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #281 on: December 19, 2013, 09:16:59 AM »
If you go through the 5 step process online its instant.
Have to keep clicking the right buttons though.
I did it online, I believe I pressed the right buttons, the 80k redeposit shows up in my activity, but is not in my available balance yet.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #282 on: December 19, 2013, 09:25:46 AM »
I did it online, I believe I pressed the right buttons, the 80k redeposit shows up in my activity, but is not in my available balance yet.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #283 on: December 19, 2013, 09:31:44 AM »
Log out, log back in.
that worked, thanks

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #284 on: December 19, 2013, 02:58:01 PM »
anybody know which business class is better Luftansa or Turkish?