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"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"


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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #780 on: September 09, 2014, 04:14:04 PM »
so the pilot comes out of the cockpit mid flight to take a nap? Isn't it against FAA regulations to open the cockpit door mid flight?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #781 on: September 09, 2014, 04:15:00 PM »
Isn't it against FAA regulations to open the cockpit door mid flight?
plenty of times I've seen the pilot come out to use the bathroom
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #782 on: September 09, 2014, 04:15:50 PM »
plenty of times I've seen the pilot come out to use the bathroom
I saw it once on US Air and was wondering how it was legal?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #783 on: September 09, 2014, 04:20:04 PM »
so the pilot comes out of the cockpit mid flight to take a nap? Isn't it against FAA regulations to open the cockpit door mid flight?

I've slept next to relief pilots in J/F several times.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #784 on: September 09, 2014, 04:20:18 PM »
I saw it once on US Air and was wondering how it was legal?
Because you're wrong.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #785 on: September 09, 2014, 04:22:20 PM »
Because you're wrong.
As I said I was "wondering", but now I know I was wrong. Thanks for teaching me.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #786 on: September 09, 2014, 04:31:53 PM »
So should i split the itin. What happens if it doesnt clear. What if there are no economy seats available to downgrade. Seems risky

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #787 on: September 09, 2014, 07:23:11 PM »
Oh the Joys of HUCA! I got an agent to confirm both, even though only 1 was available, she actually got through to the revenue department and got special authorization. made the case that it was probably going to open up anyway, and splitting the iternarary would cause the airline more trouble then its worth....Whoo hoo!

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #788 on: September 09, 2014, 07:28:59 PM »
Oh the Joys of HUCA! I got an agent to confirm both, even though only 1 was available, she actually got through to the revenue department and got special authorization. made the case that it was probably going to open up anyway, and splitting the iternarary would cause the airline more trouble then its worth....Whoo hoo!
Wow!

I thought by now there was not even 1 seat in saver award?
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #789 on: September 09, 2014, 07:33:38 PM »
it came back. but was still only 1 available.... HUCA x 4

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #790 on: September 09, 2014, 07:38:44 PM »
it came back. but was still only 1 available.... HUCA x 4
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #791 on: September 09, 2014, 07:42:13 PM »
yup. wasn't even my initiative. she offered to attempt it and after 15 minutes on hold, it went through

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #792 on: September 09, 2014, 07:59:57 PM »
Oh the Joys of HUCA! I got an agent to confirm both, even though only 1 was available, she actually got through to the revenue department and got special authorization. made the case that it was probably going to open up anyway, and splitting the iternarary would cause the airline more trouble then its worth....Whoo hoo!
Wow nice!!

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #793 on: September 10, 2014, 02:26:35 AM »
Nice! enjoy your flight and trip!  :)

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #794 on: September 10, 2014, 05:49:27 AM »
plenty of times I've seen the pilot come out to use the bathroom

On some flights they put a gate in front of the kitchen that's in front of the plane so the front kitchen, toilet and cockpit is locked of while the pilot uses the toilet.

I've slept next to relief pilots in J/F several times.

I had it only once.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #795 on: September 10, 2014, 05:55:37 AM »
Heres my situation. I am wait listed IN for 2 passengers from hnl to ewr. Its 2 days before flight and hasnt cleared yet. Yet, when i go on to united.com i see they are selling 1 business-first saver award! 2 is not available.  I called twice and they said mine wont clear unless 2 become available. Is there anyway i can at least get them to hold that 1 instead of selling it?  I feel like booking just to hold for 24 hours,although that would prob just be shooting myself in that foot. Any options here? :)

There's a travel agent that used to do this big time till they got caught and were fined.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #796 on: September 10, 2014, 11:14:38 AM »
I had it only once.
on all UA flights from to/from tlv seat 5d is reserved for crew rest, mid flight the pilot/ co pilot will come out and doze off or watch a movie for a couple of hours, once i asked about it, i was told its in their union contract

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #797 on: September 10, 2014, 11:30:28 AM »
How how is this safe? what about if 6 terrorist buy off a first class cabin and when the pilot is coming out to rest they hijack the cockpit?
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #798 on: September 10, 2014, 11:37:32 AM »

How how is this safe? what about if 6 terrorist buy off a first class cabin and when the pilot is coming out to rest they hijack the cockpit?

They have double crews for long flights. There are not only two pilots on that flight and on most long haul.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #799 on: September 10, 2014, 11:47:50 AM »
Oh the Joys of HUCA! I got an agent to confirm both, even though only 1 was available, she actually got through to the revenue department and got special authorization. made the case that it was probably going to open up anyway, and splitting the iternarary would cause the airline more trouble then its worth....Whoo hoo!

Wow!! congrats!