Topic Wiki

All you need to know:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/38212

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx
Click on "United air travel award rules:"
"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"


« Last edited by HolyNyc on February 02, 2015, 08:51:46 AM »

Author Topic: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability  (Read 507487 times)

Offline Buruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 1984
  • Total likes: 39
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2440 on: March 06, 2020, 08:08:34 AM »
If you book a mixed cabin award and space opens on the Y leg you can probably call and get moved to J, but it won't happen automatically. This isn't related to Plan B.

If you book Plan B and there's room on one leg, you should be put into J on that leg and automatically upgraded to J if room opens on the leg without J availability. I believe they will set it up for you like that. I know it works for sure when one leg isn't UA but has J availability and the UA leg doesn't.

Either way you'd end up spending more miles for J. In the first case because you booked a mixed cabin knowingly and in the second case because you flew in J on at least 1 segment.

In the mixed cabin award case, which upgrade status do you get? Can I call up and get PR-1?

Offline JOJO2020

  • DansDeals Copper Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Jan 2019
  • Posts: 24
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn, NY
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2441 on: March 08, 2020, 01:12:06 AM »
I set it up and I’m waitlisted in (I). I see that (IN) opened up but I was not upgraded. If I call them would they give me the (IN) or do I need to wait for (I) to become available?

Offline KSMH

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2018
  • Posts: 2773
  • Total likes: 496
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 15
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2442 on: March 08, 2020, 01:12:55 AM »
I set it up and I’m waitlisted in (I). I see that (IN) opened up but I was not upgraded. If I call them would they give me the (IN) or do I need to wait for (I) to become available?
Try!
Always praying for delayed baggage.

Offline nafnaf12

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 4192
  • Total likes: 251
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 79
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2443 on: March 08, 2020, 01:55:05 AM »
I set it up and I’m waitlisted in (I). I see that (IN) opened up but I was not upgraded. If I call them would they give me the (IN) or do I need to wait for (I) to become available?
you need to wait
A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.

Offline VacationLover

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Sep 2014
  • Posts: 1669
  • Total likes: 242
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2444 on: July 07, 2020, 05:54:02 AM »
I booked a mixed cabin award flight. With the EWR-DEN flight in economy and DEN-JAC in Business...

I called and they put me on waitlist.
1) should I rely that i will be confirmed in business?
2) if it doesn't open, can I get a refund later, on the business award price?

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2676
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2445 on: October 18, 2020, 04:27:44 PM »
whats the chances of plan b to clear on UA14 (flight this Tuesday)

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67599
  • Total likes: 16912
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2446 on: October 18, 2020, 04:30:19 PM »
whats the chances of plan b to clear on UA14 (flight this Tuesday)
Greater than 95%
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2676
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2447 on: October 18, 2020, 04:32:33 PM »
Greater than 95%
thanks, just one more question, will i still get a kosher meal?

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67599
  • Total likes: 16912
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2448 on: October 18, 2020, 04:33:05 PM »
thanks, just one more question, will i still get a kosher meal?
Nope. BYOK.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline nafnaf12

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 4192
  • Total likes: 251
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 79
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2449 on: October 18, 2020, 04:37:04 PM »
In is available
A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2676
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2450 on: October 18, 2020, 04:39:49 PM »
In is available
so that means it will clear today?

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67599
  • Total likes: 16912
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2451 on: October 18, 2020, 04:44:55 PM »
so that means it will clear today?
No, it means Plat/1K can book it now.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2676
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2452 on: October 18, 2020, 08:49:22 PM »
It worked! I actually cleared to I class
Thanks @Dan

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2676
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2453 on: October 18, 2020, 08:51:32 PM »
Nope. BYOK.
even though it cleared? Why is that? Due to COVID?

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67599
  • Total likes: 16912
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 15620
  • Total likes: 7712
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2455 on: October 29, 2020, 12:20:42 PM »
Is there any way to clue an agent that says she's been there 19 years and isn't aware that it can still be done ("unless it's something new")? What does she need to do?

ETA: she checked and was able to do it (took about an hour on the phone).
« Last Edit: October 29, 2020, 01:25:31 PM by ExGingi »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67599
  • Total likes: 16912
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2456 on: October 29, 2020, 12:47:27 PM »
Is there any way to clue an agent that says she's been there 19 years and isn't aware that it can still be done ("unless it's something new")? What does she need to do?
HUCA
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 15620
  • Total likes: 7712
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2457 on: October 29, 2020, 01:27:06 PM »
HUCA

Post above edited. Agent claimed (which doesn't seem to make sense) that chances of clearing are very low because they are taking a lot of cargo so they keep the passenger load light. My logic would say that's a reason to clear the list, as J won't be full (all revenue classes are showing 9). Does anything need to be done proactively at check in time (which is very soon)?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67599
  • Total likes: 16912
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #2458 on: October 29, 2020, 01:49:39 PM »
Post above edited. Agent claimed (which doesn't seem to make sense) that chances of clearing are very low because they are taking a lot of cargo so they keep the passenger load light. My logic would say that's a reason to clear the list, as J won't be full (all revenue classes are showing 9). Does anything need to be done proactively at check in time (which is very soon)?
Flight details?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline ExGingi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2015
  • Posts: 15620
  • Total likes: 7712
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 19
    • View Profile
  • Location: 770
  • Programs: בשורת הגאולה. From Exile to Redemption. GIYF. AAdvantage Executive Platinum®
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
-- Dan