Topic Wiki

All you need to know:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/38212

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx
Click on "United air travel award rules:"
"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"


« Last edited by HolyNyc on February 02, 2015, 08:51:46 AM »

Author Topic: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability  (Read 512662 times)

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68895
  • Total likes: 17272
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline yosele

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2011
  • Posts: 134
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Does the complete reservation have to be done over the phone or first I do the economy reservation online and I call to be added?

Need a wiki here.....

Offline yosele

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2011
  • Posts: 134
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
If the rep does not take mileage upfront for the reservation, I am not waitlisted the right way. Correct?

I see two comments on the main blog that they also encountered these problems, does this method still work?

Offline yosele

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2011
  • Posts: 134
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Thanks Dan!!!!

You could add another success story.  Called and made sure that they are taking the extra miles for business, and the rep told me that I on a priority waiting list.
This night I got an email that I was upgraded.

Thanks Dan again

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68895
  • Total likes: 17272
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Thanks Dan!!!!

You could add another success story.  Called and made sure that they are taking the extra miles for business, and the rep told me that I on a priority waiting list.
This night I got an email that I was upgraded.

Thanks Dan again
Very nice!
Post a comment here with more details please: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23569
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Online yos9694

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 1911
  • Total likes: 908
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
UA award question
« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2013, 03:30:14 PM »
If there is saver award availability in economy, but only standard award availability in business, can I book the economy ticket and later upgrade to business with miles? If that can be done, would the upgrade cost the difference between saver bus and saver economy or is that wishful thinking?

Ex. Economy ticket for 40,000 and business class not available for 60,000 (can get it for 150,000). Can I book the 40,000 and pay 20,000 to upgrade? Or would I have to pay 110,000 to upgrade?

Offline yare

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 2098
  • Total likes: 4
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #106 on: April 26, 2013, 05:54:02 AM »
so i just booked a fll-ewr-tlv, with plan b.     fll-ewr is open in first.   when i check online it says i'm in I for that leg, and by the ewr-tlv leg it says X and next to it " I class requested"                        but they only took 40k miles from my account.   how can i tell if i'm actually ticketed for the new class'?

Offline chucksterace

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 6890
  • Total likes: 19
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 40
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • LYNX IT Consulting
  • Location: Chicago, Jerusalem
  • Programs: AA Exec Plat; UA Premier 1K; ; LY Plat; Hyatt Platinum; Hertz President's Circle; Avis President's Club
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #107 on: April 26, 2013, 07:39:48 AM »
so i just booked a fll-ewr-tlv, with plan b.     fll-ewr is open in first.   when i check online it says i'm in I for that leg, and by the ewr-tlv leg it says X and next to it " I class requested"                        but they only took 40k miles from my account.   how can i tell if i'm actually ticketed for the new class'?

Is the flight soon, have elite status? could be the domestic complimentary upgrade that went through
You may not hold me responsible for any actions taken that were recommended from my account or username.

Offline Chaikel

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 6842
  • Total likes: 174
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 20
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: LH SEN, SPG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Rav Kav Platinum
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2013, 04:50:31 PM »
Is the flight soon, have elite status? could be the domestic complimentary upgrade that went through
No, if the domestic clears you get it for free. Dan has posted this (and every blogger picked it up from him)
Create professional looking itineraries.
Check out eliteitinerary.com

Offline Moishebatchy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 7280
  • Total likes: 151
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 23
    • View Profile
  • Location: Jerusalem
  • Programs: Arzei Makolet Platinum, Yossi's Makolet Silver, Yesh! Gold, Rav Kav Dirt
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #109 on: April 27, 2013, 05:21:14 PM »
so i just booked a fll-ewr-tlv, with plan b.     fll-ewr is open in first.   when i check online it says i'm in I for that leg, and by the ewr-tlv leg it says X and next to it " I class requested"                        but they only took 40k miles from my account.   how can i tell if i'm actually ticketed for the new class'?

"I class requested" means you're good to go.

Offline sruly

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 2156
  • Total likes: 70
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #110 on: May 14, 2013, 05:18:51 PM »
Would plan B work for a domestic flight as well ? JFK-LAX ?

Also if only standard awards are available can I book 25k one way in coach
and be wait listed if a saver pass business class seat opens ?

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68895
  • Total likes: 17272
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #111 on: May 14, 2013, 07:09:54 PM »
Would plan B work for a domestic flight as well ? JFK-LAX ?

Also if only standard awards are available can I book 25k one way in coach and be wait listed if a saver pass business class seat opens ?
Yes.
No.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline yare

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 2098
  • Total likes: 4
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2013, 04:40:52 PM »
if i'm flying fll-ewr-tlv and i'm waitlisted on the ewr-tlv leg, can i go to fll 24 hours before to be put on the priority waitlist?

Offline Side incomer

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 3507
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2013, 10:22:55 PM »
No.

YMMV. Done that many times successfully.
Side income is the most solid income... בדוק ומנוסה

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 68895
  • Total likes: 17272
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #114 on: May 17, 2013, 12:16:11 AM »
I should clarify.  You can always waitlist, but it's not a plan B situation where you can attain PR-1 status.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Side incomer

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 3507
  • Total likes: 1
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #115 on: May 17, 2013, 12:24:58 AM »
I should clarify.  You can always waitlist, but it's not a plan B situation where you can attain PR-1 status.
Gotcha
Side income is the most solid income... בדוק ומנוסה

Offline sruly

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 2156
  • Total likes: 70
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #116 on: May 17, 2013, 12:14:32 PM »
I should clarify.  You can always waitlist, but it's not a plan B situation where you can attain PR-1 status.
How does the waitlist work ? Do I redeem the 25k standard coach seat and get switch automatically if a business class seat opens up ?
and if not do i get on the standby list at the airport ?

Offline sruly

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 2156
  • Total likes: 70
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #117 on: May 20, 2013, 01:53:51 PM »
YMMV. Done that many times successfully.
What was your experience being waitlisted ? did you upgrade ? how soon ?

Offline sruly

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 2156
  • Total likes: 70
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #118 on: May 20, 2013, 02:32:04 PM »
I should clarify.  You can always waitlist, but it's not a plan B situation where you can attain PR-1 status.
I just spoke to 2 different agents with united and they said that if I am booked in a standard economy seat they cannot Waitlist me for a saver awards business seat.
Should I HUCA ?

Offline Kosher1

  • Dansdeals Bronze Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 37
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: New Jersey
Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #119 on: June 04, 2013, 10:21:37 PM »
will this work with US Airway miles flying UA?  :-\