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http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx
Click on "United air travel award rules:"
"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"


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Author Topic: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability  (Read 512268 times)

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #520 on: May 09, 2014, 12:48:48 PM »
Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

Now do I have to set it up when I first ticket the award, or can I request the upgrade later? I tried to do it later but either the agents didn't know what I was talking about, or told me it wasn't possible when there were partner metal involved.
Did you read Dan's post? He explains exactly how to do it.
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #521 on: May 09, 2014, 12:55:01 PM »
Did you read Dan's post? He explains exactly how to do it.

I did, but it wasn't clear whether all segments had to be UA metal or not, which is why I'm asking. The key really isn't how to do it, but to find an agent who knows what you are talking about. I obviously didn't try enough agents to find a good one.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #522 on: May 09, 2014, 12:56:46 PM »
I did, but it wasn't clear whether all segments had to be UA metal or not, which is why I'm asking. The key really isn't how to do it, but to find an agent who knows what you are talking about. I obviously didn't try enough agents to find a good one.
Have United call you. Those agents seem to know better than calling them.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #523 on: May 09, 2014, 01:10:30 PM »
I did, but it wasn't clear whether all segments had to be UA metal or not, which is why I'm asking. The key really isn't how to do it, but to find an agent who knows what you are talking about. I obviously didn't try enough agents to find a good one.
Never had an agent at the callback line who couldn't do it.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #524 on: May 09, 2014, 01:27:26 PM »
I did, but it wasn't clear whether all segments had to be UA metal or not, which is why I'm asking.
Couldn't be more clear:
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All of this only works with United flights, it won’t work for partner flights (partner flights can be on the same itinerary, you just can’t use Plan B for them).

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #525 on: May 11, 2014, 12:23:50 PM »

You can set it up later. You have to clarify with them that you only want it on UA metal. If there's F/J on the other carrier, you can book that when you set up Plan B. I'm not sure what will happen if there's no F/J on the other carrier.
just to be crystal clear, I can set up plan B a month after I've booked a saver award ticket ?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #526 on: May 11, 2014, 12:46:27 PM »
just to be crystal clear, I can set up plan B a month after I've booked a saver award ticket ?
Yes.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #527 on: May 11, 2014, 07:42:33 PM »
Say I set up a Plan B successfully & was automatically upgraded to business, does the original saver economy seat go back into award inventory?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #528 on: May 11, 2014, 08:01:54 PM »

Say I set up a Plan B successfully & was automatically upgraded to business, does the original saver economy seat go back into award inventory?

Not always. Just depends on the availability and if they want to
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #529 on: May 11, 2014, 08:53:16 PM »
phewwwww,

Just set up Plan B for a domestic flight with a stopover, its showing as waitlisted in I class,

1) The reservation is showing that i was charged 40K but my milage balance hasn't changed, is that normal?

2) Agent kept telling me that if I don't clear the waitlist & X class is no longer available I'd be charged the standard award rate?



Shoutout to Jaywhy for helping me out!

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #530 on: May 11, 2014, 10:57:37 PM »
Hi, I just booked a Ticket EWR to TLV using Plan B methodology. Saver Award was available in Coach etc.
The agent charged me for the full 60,000 miles + $2.50.
the confirmation says:

Fare Class: Economy (HN) - (I class requested).
They refused to use "X" fare class & the agent said that If I do not get upgraded, then I will lose the difference between 60,000 and 42,500.

Is that the right setup?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #531 on: May 11, 2014, 10:59:42 PM »
Hi, I just booked a Ticket EWR to TLV using Plan B methodology. Saver Award was available in Coach etc.
The agent charged me for the full 60,000 miles + $2.50.
the confirmation says:

Fare Class: Economy (HN) - (I class requested).
They refused to use "X" fare class & the agent said that If I do not get upgraded, then I will lose the difference between 60,000 and 42,500.

Is that the right setup?
It should be 70k, not 60k.

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #532 on: May 11, 2014, 11:08:40 PM »
It should be 70k, not 60k.

Yes Yes it's 70k my mistake, was a typo.
But, is the class "HN" correct?
Dan said we should have a class "X"

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #533 on: May 12, 2014, 12:56:56 AM »

phewwwww,

Just set up Plan B for a domestic flight with a stopover, its showing as waitlisted in I class,

1) The reservation is showing that i was charged 40K but my milage balance hasn't changed, is that normal?

2) Agent kept telling me that if I don't clear the waitlist & X class is no longer available I'd be charged the standard award rate?



Shoutout to Jaywhy for helping me out!
update
Milage balance is now showing -40k

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #534 on: May 12, 2014, 09:41:14 AM »
Yes Yes it's 70k my mistake, was a typo.
But, is the class "HN" correct?
Dan said we should have a class "X"

Any clue on this?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #535 on: May 12, 2014, 10:09:26 AM »
It's ok, canceled the reservation and tried again:
It now says:

Fare Class: United Economy (XN) - (I class requested)
XN: Because I have the Chase United Exporer Card.

I was charged the full 70,000 miles

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #536 on: May 12, 2014, 11:24:41 AM »
It's ok, canceled the reservation and tried again:
It now says:

Fare Class: United Economy (XN) - (I class requested)
XN: Because I have the Chase United Exporer Card.

I was charged the full 70,000 miles
If you got XN you should'nt you  be IN requested?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #537 on: May 12, 2014, 12:42:54 PM »
If you got XN you should'nt you  be IN requested?
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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #538 on: May 12, 2014, 12:49:17 PM »
Anyone know: If I were to book the plan B award and then decide not to take my flight, how many miles will I lose?

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Re: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability
« Reply #539 on: May 12, 2014, 12:50:09 PM »
Anyone know: If I were to book the plan B award and then decide not to take my flight, how many miles will I lose?

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