Author Topic: Plan B Discussion: Booking BusinessFirst Awards Without Availability (Read 512171 times)

yehuda S · « **Reply #540 on:** May 12, 2014, 12:51:30 PM »

Quote from: Yehoshua on May 12, 2014, 12:50:09 PM

You should get all your miles redeposited.

All? how? The rules state there is a $200 charge for cancelling an award flight!

Yehoshua · « **Reply #541 on:** May 12, 2014, 12:52:33 PM »

Quote from: yehuda S on May 12, 2014, 12:51:30 PM

All? how? The rules state there is a $200 charge for cancelling an award flight!

You will have to pay to fee (or not if you're an elite member) but they should redeposit the miles.

yehuda S · « **Reply #542 on:** May 12, 2014, 12:58:23 PM »

Quote from: Yehoshua on May 12, 2014, 12:52:33 PM

You will have to pay to fee (or not if you're an elite member) but they should redeposit the miles.

Ok I should clarify my question. I want to do plan B for a domestic award but I may not end up being able to take the flight. It's for a flight to Hawaii which means that I would not bother paying the $200 cancellation fee IF I only stand to lose the saver economy fare. If I would stand to lose the saver business fare that they take from my account upon booking, I would pay the $200 fee.

Yehoshua · « **Reply #543 on:** May 12, 2014, 01:10:16 PM »

Quote from: yehuda S on May 12, 2014, 12:58:23 PM

Ok I should clarify my question. I want to do plan B for a domestic award but I may not end up being able to take the flight. It's for a flight to Hawaii which means that I would not bother paying the $200 cancellation fee IF I only stand to lose the saver economy fare. If I would stand to lose the saver business fare that they take from my account upon booking, I would pay the $200 fee.

I'd imagine you'd get all the miles refunded. If you set up Plan B correctly and they take the full business class amount of miles from your account I don't see why they wouldn't refund that amount of miles to you.

yehuda S · « **Reply #544 on:** May 12, 2014, 01:31:01 PM »

Thanks. I doubt I would get them all back if I don't want to pay the fee. I just hope I will only lose the economy miles and not the business class miles.

MEIR613 · « **Reply #545 on:** May 12, 2014, 01:41:04 PM »

Quote from: SamKey on May 12, 2014, 11:24:41 AM

If you got XN you should'nt you be IN requested?

Huh?

XN means he has the UA CC, which gives more availability.

IN is extra biz avialabilty for elites.

So even if he's in XN, that has nothing to do with IN.

SamKey · « **Reply #546 on:** May 12, 2014, 01:49:17 PM »

Quote from: MEIR613 on May 12, 2014, 01:41:04 PM

Huh?

XN means he has the UA CC, which gives more availability.

IN is extra biz avialabilty for elites.

So even if he's in XN, that has nothing to do with IN.

Thought they were the same

mikaelrap · « **Reply #547 on:** May 12, 2014, 05:51:28 PM »

Quote from: SamKey on May 12, 2014, 11:24:41 AM

If you got XN you should'nt you be IN requested?

Apprently you are XN when you have the explorer card. But IN is for Platinum/1k members etc.

mikaelrap · « **Reply #548 on:** May 12, 2014, 05:53:00 PM »

Quote from: MEIR613 on May 12, 2014, 01:41:04 PM

Huh?

XN means he has the UA CC, which gives more availability.

IN is extra biz avialabilty for elites.

So even if he's in XN, that has nothing to do with IN.

Xactly

efflpetzel · « **Reply #549 on:** May 22, 2014, 01:35:59 PM »

I'd like to hear from people for whom Plan B didn't work out,
did United redeposit the mileage difference between business & economy?

I'm asking because multiple agents on the callback line have told me that if I don't get upgraded I won't get back those extra miles

Dan · « **Reply #550 on:** May 22, 2014, 01:43:14 PM »

Quote from: efflpetzel on May 22, 2014, 01:35:59 PM

I'd like to hear from people for whom Plan B didn't work out,
did United redeposit the mileage difference between business & economy?

I'm asking because multiple agents on the callback line have told me that if I don't get upgraded I won't get back those extra miles

Pretty rare for Plan B not to clear.

But from http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx click on "United air travel award rules"

"You may redeem miles for travel in United Global FirstSM, United First®, United Business® or United BusinessFirst® , even if the space is not available. In these cases, United Economy in the same award type must be confirmed, and the front cabin will be waitlisted. For example, a Saver United First award must be confirmed in Saver United Economy to be eligible for waitlisting. If the courtesy waitlist does not clear, it will expire 24 hours before itinerary departure, and you will automatically be added to the airport upgrade standby list upon check-in. In these cases, you will be confirmed on a space-available basis by a United airport representative at the gate once the flight has closed for check-in. For United BusinessFirst and United Business travel awards, the difference in miles will be refunded when the United BusinessFirst or United Business class segment of the trip could not be confirmed. Waitlist requests may only be made over the phone with your local United Reservations office"

yehuda S · « **Reply #551 on:** May 23, 2014, 12:49:45 PM »

Can any of the geniuses here help out?

I may want to take a flight that currently has saver availability and use plan B. I don't want to book now and end up not taking the flight for a $200 mile redeposit fee.

I'm worried that if I wait to decide, the saver will be gone.

What to do?

jaywhy · « **Reply #552 on:** May 23, 2014, 04:04:52 PM »

Quote from: yehuda S on May 23, 2014, 12:49:45 PM

Can any of the geniuses here help out?

I may want to take a flight that currently has saver availability and use plan B. I don't want to book now and end up not taking the flight for a $200 mile redeposit fee.

I'm worried that if I wait to decide, the saver will be gone.

What to do?

What route?