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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #120 on: May 19, 2016, 10:21:17 AM »
Going back to the basic question for this post - what is the best airline to transfer 250,000 Chase points to for travel to Israel (preferabley business class).  Thank you.
SQ for travel on UA. Although J availability can be hit or miss.

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #121 on: May 19, 2016, 11:08:55 AM »
SQ for travel on UA. Although J availability can be hit or miss.

UA for no-YQ with good availability on a variety of airlines especially close-in.

If you have a Chase United co-branded credit card UA is probably your best bet as you have better chances to find availability. The best part is that transfers are instant so you can wait to transfer until you're ready to book.

After accounting for YQ I am not sure SQ is such a great option (except for UA which has very little saver availability in J) I am not sure the math makes sense vs buying a revenue ticket on TK (and sometimes if you're willing to start travel outside of NYC (such as YTO, WAS or BOS) you could get an excellent deal on a DL or UA J fare to TLV that connects in NYC (giving you a non stop NYC-TLV in a widebody J, rather than switching in Europe to something else).
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #122 on: May 19, 2016, 11:17:42 AM »
Seeing plenty of availability on United through Turkish Air.  How is that airline in business or in coach?

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #123 on: May 19, 2016, 11:19:48 AM »
Seeing plenty of availability on Turkish through United.  How is that airline in business or in coach?
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #124 on: May 19, 2016, 12:02:03 PM »
Seeing plenty of availability on United through Turkish Air.  How is that airline in business or in coach?

Good.

Also see a lot of these - does it make sense to try to book with ANA, or are the fuel surcharges too high?

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #125 on: May 19, 2016, 12:25:55 PM »
Also see a lot of these - does it make sense to try to book with ANA, or are the fuel surcharges too high?

Last time I checked ANA was not a transfer option for Chase UR.

Also, are you seeing TK in J or in Y?

From what I hear from others, TK Y is much better than a lot of other airlines. I've flown TK J (revenue) with high expectations and was disappointed.
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2016, 12:36:17 PM »


From what I hear from others, TK Y is much better than a lot of other airlines. I've flown TK J (revenue) with high expectations and was disappointed.
-1 My experience with turkish was alot better than expected. But that was flying cattle, so maybe I had low expectations :) .

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #127 on: May 19, 2016, 12:56:55 PM »
Last time I checked ANA was not a transfer option for Chase UR.

Also, are you seeing TK in J or in Y?

From what I hear from others, TK Y is much better than a lot of other airlines. I've flown TK J (revenue) with high expectations and was disappointed.

Would trx MR.  Economy. 

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #128 on: May 19, 2016, 01:18:47 PM »
-1 My experience with turkish was alot better than expected. But that was flying cattle, so maybe I had low expectations :) .

Which is why I said:

From what I hear from others, TK Y is much better than a lot of other airlines. I've flown TK J (revenue) with high expectations and was disappointed.
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #129 on: May 19, 2016, 01:57:20 PM »
Would trx MR.  Economy.

Yet the question was:

Going back to the basic question for this post - what is the best airline to transfer 250,000 Chase points to for travel to Israel (preferabley business class).  Thank you.
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #130 on: May 19, 2016, 08:14:31 PM »
Yet the question was:
Cool. I guess I'm asking a different question. Are surcharges not worth it when booking Turkish to TLV w ANA points?

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #131 on: May 19, 2016, 09:14:39 PM »
Cool. I guess I'm asking a different question. Are surcharges not worth it when booking Turkish to TLV w ANA points?

In my experience Time Spent + Market Value of points (even on low end) + Fuel Surcharges is rarely a better option than what's available in revenue on NYC-TLV route in Y

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #132 on: May 19, 2016, 10:58:21 PM »
In my experience Time Spent + Market Value of points (even on low end) + Fuel Surcharges is rarely a better option than what's available in revenue on NYC-TLV route in Y

Is there an easy way (other than calling ANA) to know what the fuel surcharges would be?  Here, time spent isn't an issue, given the availability is there and I want to book. 

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #133 on: May 20, 2016, 12:25:41 AM »
Is there an easy way (other than calling ANA) to know what the fuel surcharges would be?  Here, time spent isn't an issue, given the availability is there and I want to book.

I've checked and I believe the fees were about $400 RT.  Can't remember exactly and they weren't cheap but they also weren't insane like the $900 fees on Lufthansa.

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #134 on: May 20, 2016, 03:38:33 AM »
If you have a Chase United co-branded credit card UA is probably your best bet as you have better chances to find availability. The best part is that transfers are instant so you can wait to transfer until you're ready to book.

After accounting for YQ I am not sure SQ is such a great option (except for UA which has very little saver availability in J) I am not sure the math makes sense vs buying a revenue ticket on TK (and sometimes if you're willing to start travel outside of NYC (such as YTO, WAS or BOS) you could get an excellent deal on a DL or UA J fare to TLV that connects in NYC (giving you a non stop NYC-TLV in a widebody J, rather than switching in Europe to something else).
No expanded availability for UA card holders in J!

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #135 on: May 20, 2016, 08:21:44 AM »
No expanded availability for UA card holders in J!

But expanded Y availability, and possible plan B. Also no ridiculous YQ.
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #136 on: May 20, 2016, 08:30:17 AM »
But expanded Y availability, and possible plan B. Also no ridiculous YQ.
He specifically asked about flying J, thereby rendering the point "expanded availability for card holders" moot.

UA never charges YQ!

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #137 on: May 23, 2016, 12:11:05 PM »
Delta OW availability TLV to JFK: looking at award booking (i know Delta is usually awful)
If prices are hovering between 50-85k, does it typically get lower to the 50k level closer to travel date?

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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #138 on: May 23, 2016, 03:20:07 PM »
Delta OW availability TLV to JFK: looking at award booking (i know Delta is usually awful)
If prices are hovering between 50-85k, does it typically get lower to the 50k level closer to travel date?
Usually goes up.
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Re: Getting To Israel With Miles
« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2016, 03:24:03 PM »
Cool. I guess I'm asking a different question. Are surcharges not worth it when booking Turkish to TLV w ANA points?
If your transferring amex them why don't you use AC for TK flights, which have no YQ ?
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