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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2010, 02:07:18 PM »
First Class isn't enough, you have to explain to them that its an award tix.
If this isn't enough, tell you bought the miles, so you will leave them speechless.

Basically, you ask them to bring you to bring you outside the airport, and then back in.

Its just interesting to see this fct, but lemaase luxury wise, if you eat kosher, its all the same thing.

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2010, 02:26:52 PM »
great way to keep under the radar, tell the Germans some Lame excuse (even if its true) and feed them some more reasons to Love Us. Id say come up with something alot better and believable or simply dont press the issue with them.

No problem asking but if they dont jump and say OK we will transport you and if you look very Jewish Id say start a walkin or go to another Lounge, rather then brow beat them and come up with lines to try and get ones way and to keep the old lines about Jews alive and well
Why is that lame???
I slept for a good few solid hours after waking at at 3AM in VCE to catch a flight to FRA with a 6 hour connection.

Personally I just walked after a few LH employees denied the very existence of a FCT and a "TSA" type person even laughed when I suggested there was such a thing as a terminal just for First Class folk.
Kind of bizzarro truthfully.
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #77 on: July 13, 2010, 02:39:34 PM »
Why is that lame???
I slept for a good few solid hours after waking at at 3AM in VCE to catch a flight to FRA with a 6 hour connection.

Personally I just walked after a few LH employees denied the very existence of a FCT and a "TSA" type person even laughed when I suggested there was such a thing as a FCT.
Kind of bizzarro truthfully.

 we were talking about brow beating the Germans into providing transport to the Lounge, and reread what I posted, to start a walkin = ask if told no dont stand there and try to think of things to get them to do it as most likely a person will say things that make no sense and the agents arent Stupid and will come to the conclusion that you are simply trying to get something you arent entitled to and simply Lying thru your teeth to achieve that

 sort of when a person gave an excuse why they didnt do their homework, yea the dog might have actually ate it but dont say that, as most likely it will fall on deaf ears. So here you are gonna tell the agent see Im exhausted I just came off a 9 hr flight and even thou I was in FC or Biz I didnt sleep a wink since I wanted to get my moneys worth out of the service and watch as many movies as I could. Even if its True would you if you were the agnet believe it,I wouldnt. In Elis case its a 4 hr flight from TLV that leaves at 5am do U really think they would think you didnt sleep at all

 Im not saying dont go there, all Im saying is dont make a FOOL out of oneself with the reasons you tell them why they should supply transport for you, especially if as SF says what ever you can get there you can get in the other lounges

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #78 on: July 13, 2010, 03:00:15 PM »
we were talking about brow beating the Germans into providing transport to the Lounge, and reread what I posted, to start a walkin = ask if told no dont stand there and try to think of things to get them to do it as most likely a person will say things that make no sense and the agents arent Stupid and will come to the conclusion that you are simply trying to get something you arent entitled to and simply Lying thru your teeth to achieve that

 sort of when a person gave an excuse why they didnt do their homework, yea the dog might have actually ate it but dont say that, as most likely it will fall on deaf ears. So here you are gonna tell the agent see Im exhausted I just came off a 9 hr flight and even thou I was in FC or Biz I didnt sleep a wink since I wanted to get my moneys worth out of the service and watch as many movies as I could. Even if its True would you if you were the agnet believe it,I wouldnt. In Elis case its a 4 hr flight from TLV that leaves at 5am do U really think they would think you didnt sleep at all

 Im not saying dont go there, all Im saying is dont make a FOOL out of oneself with the reasons you tell them why they should supply transport for you, especially if as SF says what ever you can get there you can get in the other lounges
The FCL pales in comparison to the FCT.  Everything is much nicer and over-the-top in the FCT from the scotches to the amenities, to the food and fruit, to the facilities, etc.

And the Germans in the lounges were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered on this planet.  They went completely out of their way from the staff, to chauffeur, to the FA's and pilot, to keep my trip itinerary a secret from my wife.  And they upgraded us even though US doesn't allow changes post-departure and no business inventory was open for awards.
They chauffeur you from the lounge to the plane without asking, so I'm sure it's only a matter of finding the right agent to get a ride to the FCT.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2010, 03:03:16 PM by Dan »
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #79 on: July 13, 2010, 03:25:14 PM »
The FCL pales in comparison to the FCT.  Everything is much nicer and over-the-top in the FCT from the scotches to the amenities, to the food and fruit, to the facilities, etc.

And the Germans in the lounges were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered on this planet.  They went completely out of their way from the staff, to chauffeur, to the FA's and pilot, to keep my trip itinerary a secret from my wife.  And they upgraded us even though US doesn't allow changes post-departure and no business inventory was open for awards.
They chauffeur you from the lounge to the plane without asking, so I'm sure it's only a matter of finding the right agent to get a ride to the FCT.

 Im not talking against the German agents, nor putting them down either. Nor did I say it doesnt pay to go to that Lounge (I havnet been in it and the few times Ive been thru FRA it was just enough time to daven and time for my connecting flight, just the way I LOVE it to be, but thats Me).

 My pt was its OK to ask and say , excuse I we are looking to get to the FCT is there a way to get there other then walking there, does LH supply a means of transport. If they say yes Great go for it, if they say what are U talking about theres no such lounge or no we dont supply transport. Simply say Thank You and head on over on your own 2 feet. If they ask why do U want to go there when there are Lounges in here Dedicated for you, you can tell them something but it shouldnt be Lame like oh I heard its much nicer over there, or I want to try 100 different top Scotches or I want to get my moneys worth out of my tkt. After all its not meant as a Transit Lounge

It seems its really acheck-in Lounge and at some Airports once you tell them you want to Exit the Secure area look at.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2010, 03:36:05 PM by steve2 »

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #80 on: July 13, 2010, 03:30:34 PM »
Im not talking against the German agents, nor putting them down either. Nor did I say it doesnt apy to go to that Lounge (I havnet been in it and the few times Ive been thru FRA it was just enough time to daven and time for my connecting flight, just the way I LOVE it to be, but thats Me).

 My pt was its OK to ask and say , excuse I we are looking to get to the FCT is there a way to get there other then walking there, does LH supply a means of transport. If they say yes Great go for it, if they say what are U talking about theres no such lounge or no we dont supply transport. Simply say Thank You and head on over on your own 2 feet. If they ask why do U want to go there when there are Lounges in here Dedicated for you, you can tell them something but it shouldnt be Lame like oh I heard its much nicer over there, or I want to try 100 different top Scotches or I want to get my moneys worth out of my tkt. After all its not meant as a Transit Lounge

It seems its really acheck-in Lounge and at some Airports once you tell them you want to Exit the Secure area look at.
Agreed, which is why I did what I did in FRA...walk there on my own 2 legs.
Have you ever flown through FRA in LH F? If you do it's really a shame to never check out the FCT.
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #81 on: July 13, 2010, 03:42:49 PM »
Agreed, which is why I did what I did in FRA...walk there on my own 2 legs.
Have you ever flown through FRA in LH F? If you do it's really a shame to never check out the FCT.

 Nope, did UA in Biz as an OPUP a few times :-)) but usually I fly Coach.

 I didnt forsee Eli making a rukuss but there are all different types on this site and I could forsee where someone wouldnt have understood everything and would be standing there saying How dare you treat a FC person this way etc etc when its not a Benefit for a Transiting FC person and theyd be ona free tkt to boot. sort of like watching these same types at the Car Rental counter at TLV swearing at the agent that they better not charge them for Liability coverage since their printout and res didnt say they had to have it etc etc. Funny a person I know tried that and really went NUTS they simply refused to rent them acar in the end under any circumstances, they didnt believe me when I told them no way will you drive away w/o paying for Liability, heck they ended up not driving away at all. They did get a car for alot more $$ the next day in town via another company. But Im sure the counter agents had only nice thoughts about these Frum guys after they left,NOT

 

 
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #82 on: July 13, 2010, 03:55:12 PM »
Whoa! We got a lot of talk here. Everybody relax. I won't make a rukess. I'll ask them to transport me and my wife because it's 5am (landing time) and we have 5 hours till our next flight.

Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #83 on: July 13, 2010, 04:12:18 PM »
Whoa! We got a lot of talk here. Everybody relax. I won't make a rukess. I'll ask them to transport me and my wife because it's 5am (landing time) and we have 5 hours till our next flight.

Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.

 so why go to the FCT when theres the FCL within the secure area? We understand why but they wont, and as I said above Eli I didnt think you would make a stink about it, but others will that was my concern. ive been turned away from Lounges Im allowed entrance to simply since I wasnt traveling with my Card, happened to me with BA (my AA status gets me in , and LH my CO and UA status gets me in) and both times I simply turned away and went on my merry way. With BA I was able to eventually get a print out showing my status , only since I was wearing a yamaka that time I didnt want her to think I was trying to get in w/o being entitled to. She apologized and said she did think I was up to no good, but that the rules still required that I present my AA card (was FIMed from CO to BA), I told her I didnt print it in order to get in but instead to show her I wasnt making upa story and BSing her. She then said Thanks and said if I wanted to I could go in and grab a couple of drinks but that I couldnt stay inside, I said Thanks but its almost time to board the flight now anyway.

 had to do the same thing in London where there was a long layover but they allowed me in based on the printout. LH is known no *Gold card = No Entrance you can stand on your head for all they care you wont be allowed in, of cause flying Biz or FC gets you in

 I had that problem getting into aLounge in AMS as I wasnt connecting further on and they didnt want to let me in, when my friend saw me he came over and they wanted to see his tkt, in the end they told us both to Please leave as its not an Arrival lounge and werent happy that some how he was able to gain entrance

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2010, 05:21:56 PM »


Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.

 I'll tell you a True story

 One Shabbos a number of yrs ago in the Ranban shul in The Jewish Quarter of The Old City during Musof a group of camera yielding German tourists walked in

It was explained to them by my friend (I wasnt there) that its the Jewish Sabbath and its forbidden to take pictures, but they are welcomed back any other time to do so. Most started to leave but 1 explained that they wont be able to come back and that he wanted some pictures of an Orthodox Shul, at which myfriend simply remarked , then who told you guys to destroy and burn all the ones down in Europe as you did. The German turned Red and did a Exit Stage Left ASAP

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2010, 05:26:51 PM »
Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.
Perhaps that's what makes being transported from the FCT in a Porsche onto the plane oh so sweet...
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #86 on: July 13, 2010, 05:44:36 PM »
My DD (dear dan), you are used to usa lounges, where i always wonder, why did i walk those extra 150 yards to get there.

In the fcl in fra or muc you will get the same level of perfection, except the person accompanying you inside which is nice.

I prefer muc (besides the kosher meal part which i never managed to receive).

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #87 on: July 13, 2010, 05:54:57 PM »
You need to go outside security.
Either you can go to First Class check-in and they'll provide transportation or you can just make a left outside the airport and walk for 5 minutes to the FCT.  Once there ring the bell and someone will escort you inside.
Be sure to let them know it's a special occasion and you want the Porsche to take you to the plane.

Try emailing LH in TLV to order kosher meals in FRA at: tlvgpmiles@dlh.de

Let me know if they are able to do that as otherwise I have a phone number somewhere that also may be able to arrange them.

So far no response. What are my other options?
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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2010, 06:02:18 PM »
So far no response. What are my other options?

you can call senator germany, ask them to forward a request to the catering service, asking obviously for kosher and stating what you would like to eat.

doesnt always work....

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Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
« Reply #89 on: July 13, 2010, 09:06:53 PM »
You want to sample at least 10 different $200+ scotches  :D
;D

And the Germans in the lounges were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered on this planet.  They went completely out of their way from the staff, to chauffeur, to the FA's and pilot, to keep my trip itinerary a secret from my wife.
Well, almost...