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Whats a Desktop Deal:

There are many factors you need to take into account in order to make something a deal. Manufacturer, Product line, Specs and warranty are usually what to look at when figuring that out. You need to consider prices as well, sometimes you get a price so hot that it doesn't matter what company it is.

Generally speaking here are the guidelines for Intel processors:

i3 8th Gen processor - Under $300 is usually a hot deal, Under $350 is decent
i5 8th Gen Processor - Under $400 is a Usually a Hot Deal
i7 8th Gen Processor - Under $600 is a Usually Hot Deal

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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2100 on: March 19, 2024, 11:46:52 PM »
Helping a friend choose a desktop. Budget is up to $1k, but doesn.t really need to be.

First choice was this all in one at $1
https://www.costco.com/lenovo-ideacentre-27%22-all-in-one-touchscreen-desktop---13th-gen-intel-core-i7-13620h---1080p---windows-11.product.4000177356.html
Seems decent, though the 1080p resolution at 27 inches is a minus. and the whole AIO minus. The 300nits i think is fine on larger screens.

$600 for this one https://www.costco.com/hp-23.8%22-all-in-one-touchscreen-desktop---amd-ryzen-5-7520u---1080p---windows-11.product.4000179145.html weaker processor and less ram, but touchscreen

or can go with the pavilion, which is back to $370
https://www.costco.com/hp-pavilion-desktop---amd-ryzen-5-5600g---windows-11.product.100941375.html much weaker cpu and even less ram, but I don't thin he needs more. ram can be upgraded later. buy two $140 screens, and total is $650

Anyone have better ideas?

also re: mac, is this https://www.costco.com/mac-mini-%e2%80%93-apple-m2-chip-8-core-cpu%2c-10-core-gpu-%e2%80%93-8gb-memory-%e2%80%93-256gb-ssd-%e2%80%93--silver.product.100943144.html for $580 good? or bad because of m2 with 8gb?

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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2101 on: March 20, 2024, 01:46:14 AM »
Helping a friend choose a desktop. Budget is up to $1k, but doesn.t really need to be.

First choice was this all in one at $1
For this price, grab it. I would even tell you to buy 2.
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2102 on: March 20, 2024, 03:56:06 AM »
For this price, grab it. I would even tell you to buy 2.

I'm in for a bakers dozen at that price

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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2103 on: March 20, 2024, 06:18:15 AM »
Without clicking the links - no time - just a few comments on each selection below:

Helping a friend choose a desktop. Budget is up to $1k, but doesn.t really need to be.

First choice was this all in one at $1
https://www.costco.com/lenovo-ideacentre-27%22-all-in-one-touchscreen-desktop---13th-gen-intel-core-i7-13620h---1080p---windows-11.product.4000177356.html
Seems decent, though the 1080p resolution at 27 inches is a minus. and the whole AIO minus. The 300nits i think is fine on larger screens.
A $700 laptop in a 27" screen

$600 for this one https://www.costco.com/hp-23.8%22-all-in-one-touchscreen-desktop---amd-ryzen-5-7520u---1080p---windows-11.product.4000179145.html weaker processor and less ram, but touchscreen
A $300 laptop without touch, maybe $400 with but you can do better than that $400 laptop with better specs, in a 22" screen

or can go with the pavilion, which is back to $370
https://www.costco.com/hp-pavilion-desktop---amd-ryzen-5-5600g---windows-11.product.100941375.html much weaker cpu and even less ram, but I don't thin he needs more. ram can be upgraded later. buy two $140 screens, and total is $650
5600G has a good reputation, particularly regarding the integrated graphics. Seems a good price. Also a better CPU than anything listed above (though maybe the first one is close).
Anyone have better ideas?

also re: mac, is this https://www.costco.com/mac-mini-%e2%80%93-apple-m2-chip-8-core-cpu%2c-10-core-gpu-%e2%80%93-8gb-memory-%e2%80%93-256gb-ssd-%e2%80%93--silver.product.100943144.html for $580 good? or bad because of m2 with 8gb? Wasting your money. Go higher in specs or don't go Mac - either 16GB RAM or 512GB SSD will solve the problem with these specs.
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2104 on: March 20, 2024, 09:46:51 AM »
A few comments ...
The i7 is marginally better than the 5600G, but not $600 better.
Note: benchmarks aren't everything. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5283vs4325/Intel-i7-13620H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600G
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2105 on: March 20, 2024, 08:23:09 PM »
The i7 is marginally better than the 5600G, but not $600 better.
Note: benchmarks aren't everything. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5283vs4325/Intel-i7-13620H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600G

It's not $600 more because you need to deduct the cost of a 27" monitor, but I hear you


https://www.costco.com/dell-xps-tower---13th-gen-intel-core-i7-13700---windows-11-home.product.4000178575.html
How's this for $700? The port selection for running dual monitor seems a bit low
I'd steer him to the inspiron small desktop, but they aren't on sale.

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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2106 on: March 21, 2024, 04:52:24 AM »
It's not $600 more because you need to deduct the cost of a 27" monitor, but I hear you

https://www.costco.com/dell-xps-tower---13th-gen-intel-core-i7-13700---windows-11-home.product.4000178575.html
How's this for $700? The port selection for running dual monitor seems a bit low
I'd steer him to the inspiron small desktop, but they aren't on sale.
Of course.
Why are we spending this much, though? Is there some use case that warrants i7-level power?
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2107 on: March 21, 2024, 05:59:18 AM »
Of course.
Why are we spending this much, though? Is there some use case that warrants i7-level power?
No
 Just a guy who wants to buy good quality and have it last a long time without breaking down randomly.

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« Reply #2108 on: March 21, 2024, 06:02:45 AM »
No
 Just a guy who wants to buy good quality and have it last a long time without breaking down randomly.
For this, i5 level is enough, and has always been enough since the i5 existed. (Ex. an i5-2600K system would be just fine today, albeit with a RAM upgrade, and if not for TPM requirements could run W11.)
Note: statement applies to DESKTOPS.
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2109 on: March 21, 2024, 06:13:40 AM »
For this, i5 level is enough, and has always been enough since the i5 existed. (Ex. an i5-2600K system would be just fine today, albeit with a RAM upgrade, and if not for TPM requirements could run W11.)
Note: statement applies to DESKTOPS.
Have a link to an available model?

I agree, any desktop chip in a full size case will be strong enough for many years. Challenge is finding a desktop for a decent price, with enough ram and built well

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« Reply #2110 on: March 21, 2024, 06:49:57 AM »
Have a link to an available model?

I agree, any desktop chip in a full size case will be strong enough for many years. Challenge is finding a desktop for a decent price, with enough ram and built well
Not much time now, maybe in the afternoon by me if I won't be sleeping (don't fast well). But I found this
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345620235323&urlLangId=&quantity=1&color=mica%20silver

$530 gets Ryzen 5 5600G, 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD, plus RX 6400 graphics. (Further future proofing - a 6500XT is great value for $60 more because it has 8GB VRAM.)
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2111 on: March 25, 2024, 04:39:34 PM »
Not much time now, maybe in the afternoon by me if I won't be sleeping (don't fast well). But I found this
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345620235323&urlLangId=&quantity=1&color=mica%20silver

$530 gets Ryzen 5 5600G, 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD, plus RX 6400 graphics. (Further future proofing - a 6500XT is great value for $60 more because it has 8GB VRAM.)
Looks good, but is it missing hdmi or display port? One usb c won't cut it, need to set a dual monitor display easily.

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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2112 on: March 26, 2024, 06:06:31 AM »
Looks good, but is it missing hdmi or display port? One usb c won't cut it, need to set a dual monitor display easily.
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2113 on: March 27, 2024, 01:56:27 AM »
hm, I guess one monitor using the HDMI, and one using the usb c with a hub or dongle? Storage is also on the small side.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/663720/lenovo-ideacentre-5-17acn7-gaming-pc?sku=546911 Was looking at this too, looks like it's worth the $130 more. And has multiple displayports

Looking also at the small Inspiron. $600, minus 10% email. And amex 10% and portals. Processor seems to be much better than the 5600g, but no graphics card.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/inspiron-small-desktop/spd/inspiron-3020-small-desktop/useishbts3020gcrd
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« Reply #2114 on: March 27, 2024, 05:39:13 AM »
hm, I guess one monitor using the HDMI, and one using the usb c with a hub or dongle? Storage is also on the small side.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/663720/lenovo-ideacentre-5-17acn7-gaming-pc?sku=546911 Was looking at this too, looks like it's worth the $130 more. And has multiple displayports

Looking also at the small Inspiron. $600, minus 10% email. And amex 10% and portals. Processor seems to be much better than the 5600g, but no graphics card.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/inspiron-small-desktop/spd/inspiron-3020-small-desktop/useishbts3020gcrd
First is wild overkill but you do you.
The second is more like the same. The graphics was never necessary, just a nice bonus.
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2115 on: May 13, 2024, 08:52:33 PM »
Yes or no to this desktop?

https://www.amazon.com/HP-13th-Generation-i9-13900K-Processor/dp/B0CFSX68CV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=211B7QAAA6KRQ

Seems to have decent hardware for the price. Only a single review.

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« Reply #2116 on: May 13, 2024, 11:33:25 PM »
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2117 on: May 15, 2024, 08:05:47 AM »
Read the seller reviews first https://www.amazon.com/sp?seller=A2TC87EJKQMY9O
100 of the 1 star reviews are "This item was fulfilled by Amazon, and we take responsibility for this fulfillment experience."

Mostly shipping issues. I am not in a rush.

Are the specs decent for the price?

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« Reply #2118 on: May 15, 2024, 08:28:02 AM »
100 of the 1 star reviews are "This item was fulfilled by Amazon, and we take responsibility for this fulfillment experience."

Mostly shipping issues. I am not in a rush.

Are the specs decent for the price?
Here's my two cents (agurot):
Cost of a 13th gen i9 direct from HP (includes a mid-range graphic card which the above lacks, 16GB RAM and TB SSD): $1200. (Might be similar specs cheaper somewhere else - I'm not in the desktop market so much.) Cost of 4TB SSD: $200. Cost of 64GB of RAM: $90, maybe.
HOWEVER, a number of points should give you pause:
-HP doesn't sell an Envy desktop with an i9 that I have seen. I wonder if CUK accounted for this in the power supply? Or the cooling? I hope the processor doesn't throttle.
-There's SSDs and SSDs. CUK does not reveal what you are getting - not the brand, not the speed. It may be a random Chinese brand with SATA performance. It may not. But they don't say.
-Same comment goes for the RAM, which I note is DDR4, already a warning sign. (The HP I mention above has DDR5 like any high-end desktop should.)

One last thing: what do you need an i9 for, anyway? If you tell me what you are doing with the computer, maybe I can advise you as to what specs you need.

Hope this is helpful. Have a great day!
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Re: Desktop Deals Master Thread
« Reply #2119 on: May 15, 2024, 09:52:47 AM »
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One last thing: what do you need an i9 for, anyway? If you tell me what you are doing with the computer, maybe I can advise you as to what specs you need.
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