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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2012, 11:58:38 PM »
If anyone could locate this "Rabbi" for me I will definitly give him a piece of my mind. Seems to me like he's just so mad that he didn't get the tweet and missed the deal. He obviously didnt talk to anyone about it before his lashon hara shmooz and and is living in his own world... Shame on him!
Calm down, he is a respectable Rabbi and while you can disagree with what he says you gotta take it easy.

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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2012, 12:00:43 AM »
You missed the boat. No one is saying that he not a good rov. People are just trying to understand how he paskened (seemingly)  without knowing the fundamentals of the airline industry.
You missed the boat, I was talking specifically about dina demalchusa that AsherO was referring to. Before you call me out, kindly read carefully the conversation.
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2012, 12:01:23 AM »
If anyone could locate this "Rabbi" for me I will definitly give him a piece of my mind. Seems to me like he's just so mad that he didn't get the tweet and missed the deal. He obviously didnt talk to anyone about it before his lashon hara shmooz and is living in his own world... Shame on him!
I was waiting to see your opinion here :)) And just for you http://www.whitepages.com/name/Ari-S-Marburger/Lakewood-NJ/5cgcgx5

ETA- looks like he has a nice pool in  his backyard. Pool/halacha DO?
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2012, 12:01:54 AM »

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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2012, 12:02:11 AM »
Calm down, he was a respectable Rabbi and while you can disagree with what he says you gotta take it easy.
FTFY
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2012, 12:02:50 AM »
Again he said he doesn't even know the price of a ticket to Israel  :o ab
And +1 no one is challenging him in chosen mishpat but rather wondering how he reached a psak halacha w/o full knowledge and comprehension of the airline business...
read above, I was not talking about the ELAL deal, I was talking about AsherO's side discussion about dina demalchusa. :)
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #66 on: August 20, 2012, 12:03:58 AM »
pretty sure there its an article in one of the rjj journals about it. I think you can also find some materials in Rabbi Dr. Aaron Levine's books

Thanks!

Why?
Doesn't make sense to me that there's only one contractor that can file their fares.

Perhaps because noone would want their business if they had a reputation of suing the company who publishes their fares.

at the very least I would assume they won't be taking their usual cut on these tickets

That would just be  percentage of the (perceived) loss.
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #67 on: August 20, 2012, 12:04:05 AM »
FTFY
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #68 on: August 20, 2012, 12:05:16 AM »
Kol hamevazeh talmid chacham - ki dvar hashem baza.
He was mevaze himself in public.
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2012, 12:05:42 AM »
Kol hamevazeh talmid chacham - ki dvar hashem baza.

I'm not quite going to +1 this, but I definitely think Jewda's comments are distasteful. While I too disagree with the Rav, it doesn't mean I shouldn't respect him as a Rav.

Appropos, today's Daf:

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כל מקום שיש חלול השם אין חולקין כבוד לרב
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2012, 12:06:51 AM »
Perhaps because noone would want their business if they had a reputation of suing the company who publishes their fares.
Meh, if I was a competitor I'd take them on as long as they pay.  If a mistake is made why should the company responsible think they can get off scot-free.

Either way this all seems like boich-svoros.  I don't think anyone knows at this points if they will sue or settle or if they will win.
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2012, 12:45:57 AM »
At least I shut everyone up (for now).
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Re: Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2012, 01:31:28 AM »
He was mevaze himself in public.
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2012, 01:40:33 AM »
At least I shut everyone up (for now).
And here I thought you read every thread,


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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2012, 01:45:22 AM »
Kol hamevazeh talmid chacham - ki dvar hashem baza.
אין דין תלמיד חכם בזמן הזה
...עאכו"כ וכש"כ וק"ו
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2012, 01:55:48 AM »
I think we can all agree on one thing:
Anyone who voices their opinion, and at the same time admits he is clueless about everything surrounding the situations, cannot be relied upon for psak whatsoever
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2012, 08:41:58 AM »
IMO, he's missing that El-Al is a ISRAELI company, not necessarily a JEWISH company.
El-Al shares are traded publicly.
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Re: Rabbi Marburger Calls Me Out...
« Reply #79 on: August 20, 2012, 08:51:42 AM »
I think we can all agree on one thing:
Anyone who voices their opinion, and at the same time admits he is clueless about everything surrounding the situations, cannot be relied upon for psak whatsoever

Chaikel, that is not what happened here. You can pasken a shaila without knowing the price of a ticket.

If the mistake was the tickets for 3.50, what would you say then, Dan? Would you agree that it is a significant loss? Would you have a chiyuv hashavas aveida? Would it be asur lefarsem?

A different point - I think (without understand fuel tax like some people here) that El Al got burned with their own shtick. Fwiu, the fuel charge is a scam, a way to make the ticket price sound less.
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