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״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 10:44:41 AM »
BEWARE IF UNITED SUSPECTS THE SALE OF MILES THEY WILL CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT AS WELL AS THE PASSENGERS ACCOUNT

I JUST SOLD AN ACCOUNT AND IT WAS CLOSED WITH 51K IN THERE, AS WELL AS THE PASSENGERS PERSONAL ACCOUNT CONTAINING 135K MILES.

I would suggest that you use the account holders credit card as to not raise any red flags.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 10:48:08 AM by Reb Moshe »

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 11:27:02 AM »
Is that all it is? The credit card? 
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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 12:10:31 PM »
Is that all it is? The credit card?

Well booking for someone else isn't a problem, also if the 'BROKER' uses his own credit card, they may see the same card being used on different accounts and get suspicious.

I think another thing they may see, is when someone changes the email address and/or pin, and then starts booking for other people.

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 12:12:58 PM »
Giving someone access to your account to book with their credit cards is a no no?

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 12:17:49 PM »
@RebMoshe

Did the person you sold miles to book an award ticket or was it closed without even booking one?

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 12:35:03 PM »
@RebMoshe

Did the person you sold miles to book an award ticket or was it closed without even booking one?

He booked a ticket, which was followed up by a phone call from United to the account holder to confirm the ticket, which she did not know the passengers name (how would she?). but she was smooth and said she said its OK which the agent said that even if she would put it through, she must use her own credit card, she didn't have it on her and said she'd call back in a few when she gets her card. By the time she called back the account was already in review, and the ticket was cancelled.

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 12:40:25 PM »
So whats safe practice when selling miles?

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 12:45:55 PM »
So whats safe practice when selling miles?
Use them yourself?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2012, 12:51:51 PM »
that didnt answer the question

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2012, 12:53:32 PM »
that didnt answer the question
If you sell miles you risk getting shut down.  The more you sell the higher the risk.

It's like asking for safe practices for smoking. 
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2012, 02:37:24 PM »
If you sell miles you risk getting shut down.  The more you sell the higher the risk.

It's like asking for safe practices for smoking.
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FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2012, 04:05:11 PM »
So whats safe practice when selling miles?
I would suggest having the account holder call up and pay taxes with their credit card

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2012, 02:05:57 PM »
He booked a ticket, which was followed up by a phone call from United to the account holder to confirm the ticket, which she did not know the passengers name (how would she?). but she was smooth and said she said its OK which the agent said that even if she would put it through, she must use her own credit card, she didn't have it on her and said she'd call back in a few when she gets her card. By the time she called back the account was already in review, and the ticket was cancelled.
It's reassuring to know that they'll call first to verify. That means that (hopefully) if you know the ppl and use a good cc, it might work.

So if one wants to book for a friend or relative (w/ a diff last name), it may be able to work

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 06:28:23 PM »
So if one wants to book for a "friend" or "relative" (w/ a diff last name), it may be able to work

FTFY. ;D

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2012, 01:50:48 AM »
FTFY. ;D
:)
I'm being serious. I have family that often comes to visit.

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 02:15:14 AM »
:)
I'm being serious. I have family that often comes to visit.
SURE. You can book for someone else. Theres NO requirement that YOU must use your miles
« Last Edit: September 23, 2012, 02:36:53 AM by Reb Moshe »

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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 02:16:32 AM »
Do yourself a favor and don't be so public about it.
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Re: FlyerTalk: UA Acct is shut down for suspicion of bartering instruments
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 03:30:50 AM »
Do yourself a favor and don't be so public about it.

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