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I was trying to follow the thread but too much I just didn’t get. I was going to ask some questions but didn’t want to take it OT. So here goes.

Is the whole problem the company is Jewish own? Does “yidden” mean Jewish people?

AsherO · « **Reply #28 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:34:04 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on August 21, 2012, 05:25:55 PM

I was trying to follow the thread but too much I just didn’t get. I was going to ask some questions but didn’t want to take it OT. So here goes.

Is the whole problem the company is Jewish own? Does “yidden” mean Jewish people?

So instead of taking that thread off-topic you'll take this one off-topic instead?

I don't know what you mean by "the whole problem". The Rabbi quoted in the OP there insinuates that it wasn't right for Dan to post the deal, since he cost El Al a loss of $$$. There's extensive discussion in rabbinic literature about when one is prohibited from causing a loss to another. There might be extra stringencies when causing a loss to a fellow Jew. But there are many other halachic and technical reasons discussed there as to why the Rabbi's conclusions might be incorrect.

Yidden means Jews in Yiddish (which is called Yiddish because it's the Jewish language, as in Swedish).

rots5 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:48:07 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on August 21, 2012, 05:34:04 PM

So instead of taking that thread off-topic you'll take this one off-topic instead?

I don't know what you mean by "the whole problem". The Rabbi quoted in the OP there insinuates that it wasn't right for Dan to post the deal, since he cost El Al a loss of $$$. There's extensive discussion in rabbinic literature about when one is prohibited from causing a loss to another. There might be extra stringencies when causing a loss to a fellow Jew. But there are many other halachic and technical reasons discussed there as to why the Rabbi's conclusions might be incorrect.

Yidden means Jews in Yiddish (which is called Yiddish because it's the Jewish language, as in Swedish).

very well put mr o! kol hakavode!

HelpMe · « **Reply #30 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:55:40 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on August 21, 2012, 05:34:04 PM

So instead of taking that thread off-topic you'll take this one off-topic instead?

Difference between GD and JS.

Like I said I was having a hard time following. It makes sense why causing a loss to others (not saying this is what happened) would be a problem. So it does not matter if the person is Jewish or not the discussion would be the same (loss to someone)?

jj1000 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:59:48 PM »

@OP kudos for an awesome thread! And ya I'm an addict, but I think the addictiveness is at least loosely proportionate to $$$ earned/saved.

AsherO · « **Reply #32 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:02:52 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on August 21, 2012, 05:55:40 PM

Difference between GD and JS.

Like I said I was having a hard time following. It makes sense why causing a loss to others (not saying this is what happened) would be a problem. So it does not matter if the person is Jewish or not the discussion would be the same (loss to someone)?

I'm not following your question (again). Not every potential/perceived loss to someone is halachically a problem, halacha defines which are a problem (there's no nutshell, it's many chapters long and concerns interpretations/extensions of several different biblical commnadments/prohibitions). The Torah/Halacha is stricter when the loss would be incurred by a fellow Jew.

In other words: It's not okay to cause a total loss to anyone (whether they are Jewish or not). In certain cases the restrictions will be greater when there's possibility of a loss and the other party is a fellow Jew.

Quote from: jj1000 on August 21, 2012, 05:59:48 PM

@OP kudos for an awesome thread! And ya I'm an addict, but I think the addictiveness is at least loosely proportionate to $$$ earned/saved.

Interesting take. I wonder if addiction specialists would take that into consideration when assessing a DDF addiction.

HelpMe · « **Reply #33 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:07:25 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on August 21, 2012, 06:02:52 PM

In other words: It's not okay to cause a total loss to anyone (whether they are Jewish or not). In certain cases the restrictions will be greater when there's possibility of a loss and the other party is a fellow Jew.

You are good. You answered my question without even understanding what it was.

Now you can all get back to this dumb thread!

AsherO · « **Reply #34 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:08:27 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on August 21, 2012, 06:07:25 PM

Now you can all get back to this dumb thread!

Addicts aren't necessarily dumb.

rots5 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:10:14 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on August 21, 2012, 06:07:25 PM

You are good. You answered my question without even understanding what it was.

Now you can all get back to this dumb thread!

with 2k plus :-) where do u fall in lol

as the little boy in the street sang

were all in this together.....

HelpMe · « **Reply #36 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:20:00 PM »

Quote from: rots5 on August 21, 2012, 06:10:14 PM

with 2k plus :-) where do u fall in lol as the little boy in the street sang

were all in this together.....

Put me in the middle, my favorite spot.

WhyAich · « **Reply #37 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:21:06 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on August 21, 2012, 06:20:00 PM

Put me in the middle, my favorite spot.

Welcome back

I'm assuming youre falling into another lapse between being clean

AsherO · « **Reply #38 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:22:46 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on August 21, 2012, 06:20:00 PM

Put me in the middle, my favorite spot.

Not in the DO pic

MosheP · « **Reply #39 on:** August 21, 2012, 08:57:08 PM »

Quote from: jj1000 on August 21, 2012, 05:59:48 PM

@OP kudos for an awesome thread! And ya I'm an addict, but I think the addictiveness is at least loosely proportionate to $$$ earned/saved.

Thank you.

Now jj, the first step to recovery is acceptance. Making excuses never helps anyone, so repeat after me.
My name is JJ, and I'm an aDDict.