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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #150 on: September 12, 2013, 03:01:00 PM »
the country has changed forever. And I don't believe that's something that can be said about the Kennedy assassination.
Even Pearl Harbor is different.
Sure it set off a chain of events which totally impacted and changed the entire world. 1,000,000x greater than 9/11's impact.
But how much of that was a direct outcome of PH?  I'm not so sure...

Have the events of Pearl Harbor itself (not that what it dragged us into WW2 and everything that came as a result) changed the country?

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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #151 on: September 12, 2013, 03:01:05 PM »
True, but by the same token 4≠Many, many is a quantity not a precentage.
I'd disagree there.
Most people would say I have many siblings.
Many is definitely relative.  If 4 commercial planes had fatal crashes this year that would be way too many!
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #152 on: September 12, 2013, 03:03:18 PM »
Those all got added as a result of other ppl trying new shtick. (underwear bomber, bomb in shoe, liquid explosives etc.)
But aren't some of the restrictions that were added being pulled back a little? some airports do not require removing shoes, you can bring (slightly) larger containers of liquids. You can now bring small scissors on board. (really small)
The extreme measures go in effect for a while and then are brought back down when they are too crazy.
The "new shtick" just goes to prove that we're never going to win this type of war.  In fact arguably we've already lost as the self-inflicted damages after 9/11 are truly massive and ongoing...

Which airports don't require removal of an adult's shoes?? (Again, not talking about pre-check enrollees)
Which airports allow liquids over 3 ounces?
Sources please!!!
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #153 on: September 12, 2013, 03:05:20 PM »
Those all got added as a result of other ppl trying new shtick. (underwear bomber, bomb in shoe, liquid explosives etc.)
But aren't some of the restrictions that were added being pulled back a little? some airports do not require removing shoes, you can bring (slightly) larger containers of liquids. You can now bring small scissors on board. (really small)
The extreme measures go in effect for a while and then are brought back down when they are too crazy.
Right, but the fact that there's even a TSA, and that we're discussing what they should or shouldn't allow through is a result of 9/11

If not for 9/11 they would've looked at the shoe bomber and underwear bombers as one-off incidents and not changed the whole policy because of them.
Again,
it totally changed America's perspective on terrorism, national security etc.

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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #154 on: September 12, 2013, 03:25:59 PM »
The "new shtick" just goes to prove that we're never going to win this type of war.  In fact arguably we've already lost as the self-inflicted damages after 9/11 are truly massive and ongoing...

Which airports don't require removal of an adult's shoes?? (Again, not talking about pre-check enrollees)
Which airports allow liquids over 3 ounces?
Sources please!!!
Could be mistaken but was recalling from personal experience flying. Could have been Orlando but don't remember for sure.
And I did agree that it won't go away completely because
even if we somehow beat the radical muslims and their ideology they have sparked and idea of how to hit someone you don't like who is much more powerful than you. So the war will never end in the sense that ppl will hate and look for ways to harm. Therefore I do not believe we will be able to board planes w/o security checks in place. But the process may be modified due to costs and public outrage against invasion of privacy. At least until the next time America is attacked...
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #155 on: September 12, 2013, 03:31:07 PM »
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #156 on: September 12, 2013, 03:37:24 PM »
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #157 on: September 12, 2013, 03:47:18 PM »
I actually flew home for Sukkos, like 3 weeks post 9/11, the line for security snaked around the terminal. And not because there were that many passangers, there were 7 people on my whole plane including crew....

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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #158 on: September 12, 2013, 04:43:51 PM »
Biggest security change in my lifetime is when metal detectors were installed. They also screened carryon baggage. This had nothing to do with 9/11.
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #159 on: September 12, 2013, 04:45:59 PM »
I guess I should appreciate being young and not really remembering "the good old days" of flying when it was less of a hassle. :)
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #160 on: September 12, 2013, 04:46:41 PM »
Biggest security change in my lifetime is when metal detectors were installed. They also screened carryon baggage. This had nothing to do with 9/11.
My recollection is that they may have screened carryons, but nothing like they do today.  They just watched everything go through and rarely stopped a bag.
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #161 on: September 12, 2013, 04:48:42 PM »
My recollection is that they may have screened carryons, but nothing like they do today.  They just watched everything go through and rarely stopped a bag.
Also the metal detectors were way less sensitive. The same belt buckle I used for years before 9/11 without a bleep started beeping away post.

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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #162 on: September 12, 2013, 04:52:04 PM »
I get jealous hearing how easy it was to walk people right to their gate and pick them up right off the plane.
Not that it's not doable today but not as easy as it was. I would have enjoyed that.
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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #163 on: September 12, 2013, 04:53:59 PM »
I get jealous hearing how easy it was to walk people right to their gate and pick them up right off the plane.
Not that it's not doable today but not as easy as it was. I would have enjoyed that.
+100 You were able to check in at the gate.

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Re: Where were you on September 11, 2001?
« Reply #164 on: September 12, 2013, 04:55:02 PM »
In 1988 or so, I walked my husband to the gate (only he was flying) and said hello to the pilot as he passed by onto the plane.