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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #780 on: May 17, 2023, 03:52:34 PM »
Dan, I think you're being too kind to United here. Definitely wouldn't title the post, "devalues some awards to Europe".
I have to agree.
Just check the calendar for EWR-LAX J class over the next few months, nothing under 50K
and no economy non stop under 21K
Besides why are the calendars so messed up?? They are not a small airline like Elal. Unless you use the "legacy" search the calendar shows point amounts that aren't true.
(It has also become one of the slowest working airline websites, almost feels like the old dial up modems)

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #781 on: May 17, 2023, 03:55:12 PM »
love this line "They presumably figure they can do this with Delta miles worth less than Venezuelan Bolivars and American eliminating saver awards.."
https://viewfromthewing.com/united-devalues-mileageplus-increases-points-prices-of-many-awards-by-up-to-46/

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #782 on: May 17, 2023, 04:01:08 PM »
I have to agree.
Just check the calendar for EWR-LAX J class over the next few months, nothing under 50K
and no economy non stop under 21K
Besides why are the calendars so messed up?? They are not a small airline like Elal. Unless you use the "legacy" search the calendar shows point amounts that aren't true.
(It has also become one of the slowest working airline websites, almost feels like the old dial up modems)
The lack of saver awards is a separate issue plaguing every airline. That's not in the scope of what happened here.
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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #784 on: May 17, 2023, 04:07:27 PM »
The lack of saver awards is a separate issue plaguing every airline. That's not in the scope of what happened here.
The fact that they feel they can get away with both of these destroys trust in the program and any loyalty they had. That itself is a big devaluation.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #785 on: May 17, 2023, 04:09:47 PM »
Made some edits based on comments,
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/united-devalues-awards-europe-uniteds-updated-unpublished-award-chart/
Title is much better. Article itself is also improved, but not to the extent of the title. :)

Maybe should be clearer, that while perhaps not a surprise, it is still disappointing, etc.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #786 on: May 17, 2023, 04:10:14 PM »
The fact that they feel they can get away with both of these destroys trust in the program and any loyalty they had. That itself is a big devaluation.
Sure, but I priced that in 3 years ago. I'm just surprised it took this long and that it's limited to one region.
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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #787 on: May 17, 2023, 04:11:22 PM »
Title is much better. Article itself is also improved, but not to the extent of the title. :)

Maybe should be clearer, that while perhaps not a surprise, it is still disappointing, etc.
Added.
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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #788 on: May 17, 2023, 04:24:40 PM »
A heartbreaking day for MileagePlus members

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-europe-devaluation/

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #790 on: May 17, 2023, 04:30:25 PM »
A heartbreaking day for MileagePlus members

https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-europe-devaluation/
All this hyperbole is getting to me.
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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #791 on: May 17, 2023, 05:35:14 PM »
All this hyperbole is getting to me.
The biggest joke is that no one reported it for two weeks.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #792 on: May 17, 2023, 05:45:59 PM »
The biggest joke is that no one reported it for two weeks.

the change is recent.
I booked Europe Biz class awards couple of days ago for 77K.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #793 on: May 17, 2023, 05:58:58 PM »
the change is recent.
I booked Europe Biz class awards couple of days ago for 77K.
united seems to have raised save award levels from their unofficial chart

example nyc - zrh on july 12, united metal saver 40k, swiss flight 43.9.  lot of other examples to and from europe in summer. 

i havent checked other routes
See starting from here. They started with economy first. And it wasn't all routes on day one.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #794 on: May 17, 2023, 06:00:21 PM »
See starting from here. They started with economy first. And it wasn't all routes on day one.
This is why I hate master threads.
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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #795 on: May 17, 2023, 06:06:28 PM »
This is why I hate master threads.
That's why I pinged you. :)

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #796 on: May 17, 2023, 06:17:02 PM »
That's why I pinged you. :)
A day early, was still enroute home and promptly forgot all about it.
Nunu.
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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #797 on: May 17, 2023, 08:34:46 PM »
All this hyperbole is getting to me.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #798 on: May 17, 2023, 09:08:41 PM »
All this hyperbole is getting to me.
All this hyperbole is good for getting the airline to think twice about the next deval (not that they won't do it). If they devalued awards like this and it went over quietly you can be sure there will be more coming sooner rather than later.

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Re: United Mileage Plus
« Reply #799 on: May 17, 2023, 09:59:33 PM »
All this hyperbole is good for getting the airline to think twice about the next deval (not that they won't do it). If they devalued awards like this and it went over quietly you can be sure there will be more coming sooner rather than later.

I wish that were true, but unfortunately the trend seems to be that Airlines feel confident they can get away with pretty much anything when it comes to award program devaluations