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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1040 on: February 17, 2015, 01:48:09 PM »

"VC Jason Calcanis predicts Apple will buy Tesla within 18 months, citing (among other things) Tesla's head-start in EV development, touchscreen UI investments, and plans for a battery gigafactory that could also benefit other Apple products. Elon Musk reportedly met with Apple M&A execs back in 2013." quote from today in Seeking Alpha

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 TSLA market value is $25.50 Billion
That rumor has been going around forever

I follow TSLA very carefully and I would be VERY VERY surprised if apple tried to acquire it
especially since Apple and Tesla are having a miniwar over poaching employees

Although I would be very happy if they did because TSLA is my biggest holding

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1041 on: February 17, 2015, 02:30:09 PM »
Apple could buy almost any company it wanted. It could buy Mastercard, Visa, AMEX if it wanted to boost apple pay. It could buy Bank of America too.
It could buy netflix to have all our information on what we watch and sell that to companies.
If it wanted to boost entertainment, it could buy Disney (ESPN, ABC) too.

It could buy almost anything it wanted.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1042 on: February 17, 2015, 02:40:57 PM »
Apple could buy almost any company it wanted. It could buy Mastercard, Visa, AMEX if it wanted to boost apple pay. It could buy Bank of America too.
It could buy netflix to have all our information on what we watch and sell that to companies.
If it wanted to boost entertainment, it could buy Disney (ESPN, ABC) too.

It could buy almost anything it wanted.

what are you trying to say?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1043 on: February 17, 2015, 02:41:25 PM »
what are you trying to say?
+1000000   #confused
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1044 on: February 17, 2015, 02:51:50 PM »
If Musk was selling Tesla he would have people lining up at his door.

Just because some company or person has the money doesnt mean it can buy whatever would be cool to own. Takes 2 to tango.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1045 on: February 17, 2015, 05:07:05 PM »
If Musk was selling Tesla he would have people lining up at his door.

Just because some company or person has the money doesnt mean it can buy whatever would be cool to own. Takes 2 to tango.
I agree... BUT theres always a price.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1046 on: February 17, 2015, 06:05:53 PM »
If Musk was selling Tesla he would have people lining up at his door.

Just because some company or person has the money doesnt mean it can buy whatever would be cool to own. Takes 2 to tango.
no way musk will ever sell tesla. It's his baby. He has a type A personality and wants to win. Selling to apple would not be winning the war.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1047 on: February 17, 2015, 06:39:51 PM »
no way musk will ever sell tesla. It's his baby. He has a type A personality and wants to win. Selling to apple would not be winning the war.
His baby? What about his SpacX baby? hyper-loop idea?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1048 on: February 17, 2015, 07:02:12 PM »
no way musk will ever sell tesla. It's his baby. He has a type A personality and wants to win. Selling to apple would not be winning the war.
not true for the right price he would sell
he even said that he will stay for the next 5 years as CEO but may leave after that
dont forget Paypal used to be his "baby"
he also has other thing he is doing (SpaceX) and things he doesn't have time to do right now (hyperloop)

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1049 on: February 17, 2015, 10:22:38 PM »
i dont recall MSFT having $178 Billion cash on hand ! yes you can say that again BILLION spelled with a B.
i dont recall MSFT generating $18 B profit in one quarter.
i dont recall MSFT having costumer camping out 24hours outside the store to grab the newest phones or gadgets.
this list can go on and on.

Apple is not just a technology company selling electronics and software.
im not here to pump the company but this is one of those stocks that people do feel comfortable putting all eggs in one basket.

what im saying, $178 Billion doesnt evaporate overnight.
 Icahn as an insider knows more then us, if he feels comfortable giving a $200+ Target Price im comfortable with that too. i will take $175 any day :-)


"VC Jason Calcanis predicts Apple will buy Tesla within 18 months, citing (among other things) Tesla's head-start in EV development, touchscreen UI investments, and plans for a battery gigafactory that could also benefit other Apple products. Elon Musk reportedly met with Apple M&A execs back in 2013." quote from today in Seeking Alpha

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 TSLA market value is $25.50 Billion

Wow, if I was a stock holder it would be really tough for me to give a $500 target on this stock.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1050 on: February 17, 2015, 11:05:49 PM »

Wow, if I was a stock holder it would be really tough for me to give a $500 target on this stock.
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In his Oct '14 letter he valued the stock at $203, now 4 months later, and a lot of positive stuff happening to AAPL (numbers  & products), he's still at $216,
he could've valued the stock last week at $250 instead of $216 and it would've made perfectly sense (at least as sensible as his $203 target was in Oct.) but he didn't, he sticked to his "just above $200" target, which tells you (or at least me) that he's on to something and he's not just spewing out numbers to push his agenda.
Just my .02

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1051 on: February 17, 2015, 11:40:32 PM »
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In his Oct '14 letter he valued the stock at $203, now 4 months later, and a lot of positive stuff happening to AAPL (numbers  & products), he's still at $216,
he could've valued the stock last week at $250 instead of $216 and it would've made perfectly sense (at least as sensible as his $203 target was in Oct.) but he didn't, he sticked to his "just above $200" target, which tells you (or at least me) that he's on to something and he's not just spewing out numbers to push his agenda.
Just my .02

Lol he's saying that it's worth nearly 700b more than the consensus and you take his words seriously?
He has provided good advice to Tim Cook but don't rely on him for stock advice.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1052 on: February 18, 2015, 12:28:50 AM »

Lol he's saying that it's worth nearly 700b more than the consensus and you take his words seriously?
I'm not saying I agree with his target, I'm saying that if he's just putting out high targets because he "owns the stock" and drives an agenda, he could've put out higher targets and still get away with it.
don't rely on him for stock advice.
I'm not that sure you wanna say that on a guy who's worth $30B by following that same advice you just described as unreliable ...

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1053 on: February 18, 2015, 12:50:53 AM »
I'm not saying I agree with his target, I'm saying that if he's just putting out high targets because he "owns the stock" and drives an agenda, he could've put out higher targets and still get away with it.I'm not that sure you wanna say that on a guy who's worth $30B by following that same advice you just described as unreliable ...

He's only worth something because he didn't listen to the analysts.
And also because he bought when the price was closer to $60, not over double that price.
Last but not least, his bank account size doesn't make his bias any less tolerable.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1054 on: February 18, 2015, 12:57:53 AM »

He's only worth something because he didn't listen to the analysts.
He's not an analyst.
And also because he bought when the price was closer to $60, not over double that price.
Imagine you taking his advice when he first bought the stock...
Last but not least, his bank account size doesn't make his bias any less tolerable.
Bias proven to be accurate, is bias I wanna rely on.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1055 on: February 18, 2015, 07:30:37 AM »
Lol he's saying that it's worth nearly 700b more than the consensus and you take his words seriously?
He has provided good advice to Tim Cook but don't rely on him for stock advice.

I would not have the guts talking like that about him.
check out his stock IEP

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1056 on: February 18, 2015, 11:06:04 AM »

I would not have the guts talking like that about him.
check out his stock IEP
+$33.6B

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1057 on: February 18, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »
He's not an analyst.Imagine you taking his advice when he first bought the stock...Bias proven to be accurate, is bias I wanna rely on.

1. Never said he was. My point is that billionaires didn't become rich by copying others.
2. I bought stock earlier than him and at a better price, not sure of your point.
3. Okay, whatever floats your boat.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1058 on: February 19, 2015, 01:15:27 PM »
Hi,
I was just browsing through and thought I'd ask your guys opinion.
Should I contribute to 401k if employer matches 3% regardless of my contribution?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #1059 on: February 19, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »
Hi,
I was just browsing through and thought I'd ask your guys opinion.
Should I contribute to 401k if employer matches 3% regardless of my contribution?

as opposed to not saving for retirement or saving for other things?