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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2961 on: February 21, 2018, 01:20:05 PM »
This is what Buffet says http://fortune.com/2017/12/30/warren-buffett-million-dollar-bet/ ;D
Interesting how there were actually huge gains (Capital Appreciation) in Bonds!
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2962 on: February 21, 2018, 02:25:24 PM »
Interesting how there were actually huge gains (Capital Appreciation) in Bonds!
this happened only during the great recessision as there was a flight to quality increasing sharply bond prices but that didnt continue later

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2963 on: February 21, 2018, 02:43:38 PM »
this happened only during the great recessision as there was a flight to quality increasing sharply bond prices but that didnt continue later
You are aware that there has been about a 30 year bull market in bonds. Are you?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2964 on: February 21, 2018, 02:50:50 PM »
You are aware that there has been about a 30 year bull market in bonds. Are you?
Dont know about 30 years but since 2009 when 10 yr yield was below 2.5% till now when its 2.9% its not considered a bull market in my opinion.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2965 on: February 21, 2018, 02:52:02 PM »
In 2007 when Buffet made the bet when the 10 yr yield was above 5% till 2009 when it tumbled to 2.5% it was a great bull market but since than........

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2966 on: February 21, 2018, 06:25:38 PM »
In 2007 when Buffet made the bet when the 10 yr yield was above 5% till 2009 when it tumbled to 2.5% it was a great bull market but since than........
Bull market in treasuries continued until about a year ago (and up until recent months was rather flat for the past year IINM).
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2967 on: February 21, 2018, 07:52:11 PM »
Bull market in treasuries continued until about a year ago (and up until recent months was rather flat for the past year IINM).
http://www.multpl.com/10-year-treasury-rate/table/by-year
Where exactly is here a bull market? Jan 1, 2009   2.52%   Jan 1, 2018   2.58%

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2968 on: February 22, 2018, 10:15:41 AM »
http://www.multpl.com/10-year-treasury-rate/table/by-year
Where exactly is here a bull market? Jan 1, 2009   2.52%   Jan 1, 2018   2.58%

Bull market in treasuries continued until about a year ago (and up until recent months was rather flat for the past year IINM).

It has definitely been in a secular bull market through:

Sep 1, 2017   2.20%

Many experts believe that it is over now, but not all. No one buying the dip in the bond market?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2969 on: February 22, 2018, 02:50:36 PM »
It has definitely been in a secular bull market through:

Sep 1, 2017   2.20%

Many experts believe that it is over now, but not all. No one buying the dip in the bond market?
Again, On Jan 1, 2009 the yield was 2.52%, so when on Sep 1, 2017 its 2.20% its not exactly a bull market

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2970 on: February 22, 2018, 06:32:25 PM »
Again, On Jan 1, 2009 the yield was 2.52%, so when on Sep 1, 2017 its 2.20% its not exactly a bull market
How much of a price appreciation is that (in addition to the coupon)?

Just look at a visual and tell me if the bull market in treasuries didn't continue through at least part of 2017.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2971 on: February 22, 2018, 07:49:48 PM »
How much of a price appreciation is that (in addition to the coupon)?

Just look at a visual and tell me if the bull market in treasuries didn't continue through at least part of 2017.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DGS10
Over 8 yrs? very small price appreciataion!

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2972 on: February 23, 2018, 02:56:20 PM »
What's with JCP

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2973 on: February 23, 2018, 03:19:23 PM »
What's with JCP
All the retailers got super excited today because of a report that Nordstrom is being taken private, go figure, they’re acting like kids getting excited when a friend gets engaged, it’s a joyful event, fine, but dude you’re the loser being left single, what’s the excitement all about!?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2974 on: February 23, 2018, 04:07:00 PM »
Anyone cashing in on AMZN today? Or staying the course?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2975 on: February 23, 2018, 04:16:06 PM »
Glad I stayed the course, $1,500 baby!
Cashing now? Why don't they split?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2976 on: February 23, 2018, 04:16:54 PM »
Cashing now? Why don't they split?
Letting it ride has worked well for me so far...
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2977 on: February 23, 2018, 04:18:48 PM »
Letting it ride has worked well for me so far...
The higher you are, the farther you fall. -  Marijuana expert
But I personally agree, although if some dirt dies show up....
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2978 on: February 24, 2018, 09:06:54 PM »
Thoughts on KHC as a long term value play?
It looks like a text book Buffett stock at this price (and not just because he invested in it).

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2979 on: February 25, 2018, 12:28:47 AM »
How can you compare marijuana to Amazon?
Note the sarcasm.
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