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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3340 on: November 14, 2018, 04:58:57 PM »
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3341 on: November 14, 2018, 05:21:40 PM »
Quote from: Ephraimh on November 14, 2018, 04:58:57 PM
No brainer
Ok so I should short for short term and buy long term?
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« Reply #3342 on: November 14, 2018, 06:30:52 PM »
Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on November 14, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Ok so I should short for short term and buy long term?
Although I think — and all indicators show — that it’s going lower in the short term, I would never short the stock (or any stock) especially at these levels, but would definitely buy for the long term here, and average down.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3343 on: November 15, 2018, 01:36:41 AM »
Quote from: Ephraimh on November 14, 2018, 06:30:52 PM
Although I think — and all indicators show — that it’s going lower in the short term, I would never short the stock (or any stock) especially at these levels, but would definitely buy for the long term here, and average down.
One of the most important rules of trading is to never average down, averaging down means you were wrong in the first place, and your first loss is always your smallest loss.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3344 on: November 15, 2018, 01:44:36 AM »
Quote from: ludmila on November 15, 2018, 01:36:41 AM
One of the most important rules of trading is to never average down, averaging down means you were wrong in the first place, and your first loss is always your smallest loss.
He didn’t ask about short term trading, he asked about long term buying, where averaging down is the way to go, it doesn’t mean you “were wrong in the first place”, it merely means that you didn’t do the impossible and time the bottom but you get another chance to get your average price down for the long term.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3345 on: November 15, 2018, 01:16:31 PM »
Anyone have an opinion on NRZ?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3346 on: November 15, 2018, 03:31:05 PM »
NYSE:PNC ?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3347 on: November 16, 2018, 04:12:24 PM »
Today, Verizon recovered from the dot com crash.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3348 on: November 18, 2018, 10:07:46 PM »
Quote from: good sam on November 16, 2018, 04:12:24 PM
Today, Verizon recovered from the dot com crash.
18 years later
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3349 on: November 19, 2018, 12:37:15 AM »
What about with dividends?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3350 on: November 19, 2018, 10:50:25 AM »
NYSE:GE?
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« Reply #3351 on: November 19, 2018, 12:02:13 PM »
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3352 on: November 19, 2018, 12:12:17 PM »
Quote from: davidrotts63 on November 19, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
Itll get there one day.
Agreed. I am long.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3353 on: November 19, 2018, 12:50:07 PM »
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3354 on: November 19, 2018, 03:43:01 PM »
Quote from: good sam on November 18, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
18 years later

From 2000 to now VZ is up 167% with dividends reinvested
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3355 on: November 19, 2018, 04:01:28 PM »
Quote from: davidrotts63 on November 19, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
Itll get there one day.
Quote from: ludmila on November 19, 2018, 12:50:07 PM
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3356 on: November 19, 2018, 04:21:33 PM »
Quote from: Htx on November 19, 2018, 03:43:01 PM
From 2000 to now VZ is up 167% with dividends reinvested
That's not a correct statement. Assuming your number is correct, then if you invested $1,000 in 2000, you would have seen $1,670 in returns, and your principal would be worth $1,000.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3357 on: November 19, 2018, 05:03:58 PM »
Quote from: good sam on November 19, 2018, 04:21:33 PM
That's not a correct statement. Assuming your number is correct, then if you invested $1,000 in 2000, you would have seen $1,670 in returns, and your principal would be worth $1,000.

That’s not how it works. Dividend reinvesting increases your principal invested. Look at yahoo finance, historical prices and put in 01/03/00 it has an adjusted closing price of 21.82 on that day which accounts for all stock splits and dividends from that point. Currently with a market price of 60+ it’s not just now to breakeven, it’s well ahead of that point.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3358 on: November 19, 2018, 09:59:20 PM »
Thoughts on averaging down on Amzn?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #3359 on: November 20, 2018, 09:37:37 AM »
there gotta be some buying opportunities today... even if it might still go lower
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